Ok, I'm waiting for your document.No it is toner transfer. This process is well documented.
Ok, I'm waiting for your document.No it is toner transfer. This process is well documented.
I have to disagree with speed and accuracy. Even low cost CNC machines are not that slow and the accuracy, while not super high, is more than sufficient. I agree the cost is high if only for PCBs. If you figure $500 all in costs for a small mill, then you could get 25 or more different PCB designs made by one of the PCB outfits. Of course you also have to factor in material cost, bits, shop space, your time and so on. And, I don't know how to factor in the lack of silkscreen, plated through holes/vias and solder mask but that's the same for any home-made PCB. I used to make my own boards but once the price came down and delivery times got to be less than a week, I never looked back. Can't imagine going through the hassle of making a PCB.RE:""I want to make my boards at home.""
The CNC for PCB - very inaccurate, very expensive, very slow (hours), very bad electrically (parasitic capacitance), bad looking.
Ok, I'm waiting for your document.
Why are the traces so blurry?Here is my latest - horrible photo I know but it's the best I could get my phone to do. It includes a SOIC8, SOT23, and 1206 capacitors and resistors.
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The traces aren't blurry to my eyes so it's either the phone camera or the photographer's fault.Why are the traces so blurry?
Nobody is milling a gap of 0.1mm at home. Try your calculation again with a more typical gap of 0.4 to 0.6 mm. You'll see the capacitance is quite low. Even with your estimate, the calculated capacitance or even 10x your capacitance would not impact my designs.RE:""Here is my latest - horrible photo I know""
For example Your most right side`s vertical path. Has surplus capacitance over those happening through the glass fibre, now happens as through as onto both sides. If length 10 cm thickness of copper 35 micron, gap to the gnd area 0,1 mm then C=0,1*35E-6*8,85E-12/0,1E-3*2 pieces=0,7 pF. Its just the resonant tank with resonance frequency about 10 cm*10 nH/cm=100 nH what results in f(rez)=600 MHz - its detrimental need to tick with a finger.
The highest intentional frequency on that board is 38kHz for IR remote control. The two tracks on the right hand side connect to a 2x AA battery holder. What happens at 600MHz I really don't care about. If I was making a down converter for satellite reception I wouldn't be designing or making the PCB - I wouldn't know where to start. Most of the stuff I do is PIC and/or analog and the boards produced by my mill are perfectly suitable for the purpose. I also use the mill for making things other than PCBs and these are parts which are custom designed for the purpose. I couldn't buy these parts and if I couldn't make them, I just wouldn't have them.RE:""Here is my latest - horrible photo I know""
For example Your most right side`s vertical path. Has surplus capacitance over those happening through the glass fibre, now happens as through as onto both sides. If length 10 cm thickness of copper 35 micron, gap to the gnd area 0,1 mm then C=0,1*35E-6*8,85E-12/0,1E-3*2 pieces=0,7 pF. Its just the resonant tank with resonance frequency about 10 cm*10 nH/cm=100 nH what results in f(rez)=600 MHz - its detrimental need to tick with a finger.
And in any case the tracks that have that 'massive capacitance' are the connections to the batteryNobody is milling a gap of 0.1mm at home. Try your calculation again with a more typical gap of 0.4 to 0.6 mm. You'll see the capacitance is quite low. Even with your estimate, the calculated capacitance or even 10x your capacitance would not impact my designs.
Ooh, a way to save part count.And in any case the tracks that have that 'massive capacitance' are the connections to the battery
Oops that is right. I posted the wrong link above. Correcting now.You need a spoil board for making PCBs - drilled holes, mill the board outline, and dowels for locating double sided boards.
It doesn't need to be exceptionally flat as, with a probe, the software can compensate for un-levelness. I wrote my own but there is this which is available free: https://www.autoleveller.co.uk/
Have you taken a look at this post, and at this thread?Toner transfer I've done some good ones but where I live don't think they let me do that you can fart next door and smell it.
@AlbertHall looks great to me