From my perspective, problems always start when a discussion does not make a clear distinction between a country's government and its citizens. I'm just say'n...

 

I never mentioned a thing about Russia, I merely agreed with another member who you apparently disagree with. I also never implied that the US Government has never conducted hazardous experiments, not at all so spare me what you seem to think I said. The US Government has in fact conducted hazardous experiments on US soil, The Tuskegee syphilis experiment comes to mind as well as the 1,032 nuclear tests between 1945 and 1992. Likely more than any other country. Those would be facts and nothing to do with politics. The trick is knowing how to distinguish between the two.

Ron

<sar> Since we're on the side of offending comments, I will say the stupid is when a Military is allowed to conduct Nuclear Test in Utah, then with the same Uranium pulled from it's mines, store Nuclear rods in Utah, plus the fact that our local and provincial Gov allows it to come back? WTF right?>

<We'll be laughing all the way to the bank when we can utilize spent rods in a reactor developed to squeeze out further radiation for energy and sell it back to them, ya, take that. Then once depleted, we'll just put it back in the mines they came from, how's that for thinking huh? Ya I said it.>

Thereby implying that US government does not conduct hazardous experiments? Please give me a break. Politics were banned on this site? Once you make a comment such as "bad things happen is Russia all the time", you make this political. But my hands are tied in terms of my reply by the rules. Good job everyone.

I will say I get what you're saying we all do, but we all have crazy people running around both in the United States as well as Russia. I liked reading a book of the human condition where a person is so locked up inside they over express themselves on the outside which leads them to act out, or possibly to commit the most horrible of crimes, who knows why we have had so many crazes shooting up the malls and such in America. But, we all have too much time on our hands to think about hypercriticism and too many people eating away at themselves for no good reason. I think maybe they don't have a purpose driven life, maybe they allow others to tell them what to do, and what not too, instead of leading their lives by their own minds.

I think you'll like this one. https://www.planetebook.com/free-ebooks/notes-from-the-underground.pdf

Sincerely,

kv

 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/emplo...the-internet-so-they-can-mine-cryptocurrency/

Ukrainian authorities are investigating a potential security breach at a local nuclear power plant after employees connected parts of its internal network to the internet so they could mine cryptocurrency.

The investigation is being led by the Ukrainian Secret Service (SBU), who is looking at the incident as a potential breach of state secrets due to the classification of nuclear power plants as critical infrastructure.

Investigators are examining if attackers might have used the mining rigs as a pivot point to enter the nuclear power plant's network and retrieve information from its systems, such as data about the plant's physical defenses and protections.

 

A scientific shocker:

https://www.foxnews.com/science/chernobyl-fungi-eats-radiation

In 1991, the strange fungi was found growing up the walls of the reactor, which baffled scientists due to the extreme, radiation-heavy environment. Researchers eventually realized that not only was the fungi impervious to the deadly radiation, it seemed to be attracted to it.

 

A scientific shocker:
https://www.foxnews.com/science/chernobyl-fungi-eats-radiation

So we just coat ourselves with the fungi and walk into the reactor.

But I suspect the fungi are inherently a lot more resistance to radiation than we are.

 

Sounds like fungi with a very advanced case of Melanoma from radiation exposure... Article a bit light on any real facts such as at least the genus and species of the fungi. But interesting... There are primitive organisms that can survive in surprising places with extreme conditions for most of us and thrive on it.

 

Revolutionary Technology Neutralizes Radioactivity Around Chernobyl by 47% – Using Only the Processes of Earth


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In addition to treating radioactivity, NSPS technology can also be used to treat other types of soil contamination, including heavy metals and perfluoroalkyl substances, which are highly problematic for the environment.

“We are only at the beginning of the virtuous application of such a technology,” says inventor Niemczyk. “As with our other successfully commercialized technologies, we have demonstrated that we can use nature’s resources to heal the wounds we inflict on it. The common denominator of our technologies, installed underground, is the use of natural and renewable forces to achieve tangible results.”

 

Revolutionary Technology Neutralizes Radioactivity Around Chernobyl by 47% – Using Only the Processes of Earth
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It uses a series of tubes that are a specific shape, with a designated length and distance between each other, which enables the radionuclides to naturally decontaminate at a much faster pace than the 24,000 years, it would take on its own
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It leverages in particular high velocity particles, also known as positrons, to direct this naturally occurring force towards radioactive isotopes in the soil and breaks the bonds holding them together. This is done safely under the surface of the soil and no radioactivity is released further into the ground or above the ground in the air, according to Exlterra. Once the positron comes into contact with the radioactive isotope, it rejoins an electron and annihilates back to its original matter.
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It harnesses renewable energy sources present in nature to considerably accelerate the natural decomposition process of contaminants in the soil.
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The common denominator of our technologies, installed underground, is the use of natural and renewable forces to achieve tangible results.

Looks like pure snake oil and technobabble, to me.

 

I didn’t bother to watch it, so this may be totally wrong, but…

It sounds like he thinks chemical decomposition will remove radioactivity. It will not. The radioactive nuclei are not altered by chemical processes.

 

I didn’t bother to watch it, so this may be totally wrong, but…

It sounds like he thinks chemical decomposition will remove radioactivity. It will not. The radioactive nuclei are not altered by chemical processes.

His claim is that by putting tubes in the ground that are of specific lengths separated by specific distances, that naturally occurring positrons will be directed toward the radioactive nuclei and annihilate with electrons, thus returning the radioactive nuclei to its "original matter". Pure technobabble.

If this actually had any measurable effect, let alone the effect that he claims, it would be among the biggest news stories ever, physics departments around the world would be rushing to reproduce the results, and they'd be telling him to get his Nobel acceptance speech written right away.

 

His claim is that by putting tubes in the ground that are of specific lengths separated by specific distances, that naturally occurring positrons will be directed toward the radioactive nuclei and annihilate with electrons, thus returning the radioactive nuclei to its "original matter". Pure technobabble.

Oh, that is even worse than I thought!

 

We generated a Superfund Site. The chemically chlorinated waste had been buried in a tank of bentonite clay as per EPA standard at the time it was done. Some of the waste (Toxaphene, a chlorinated hydrocarbon waste that was the SAFE replacement for DDT) had leaked from the transfer trucks from the plant to the disposal site. Testing found it in people's yards and near an elementary school. We bought a lot of houses or scraped their yards and gave them new landscaping and built a new school. What the government did was leave it in place but augured the waste up with an about 4-6' diameter auger and mixed it with cement and put it back down the hole and fenced the entire area to prevent anyone from entering. Then it was leveled and capped with concrete and dirt. Today it is the paved side lot of a New Car Dealership and covered with vehicles for sale. Digging and reburying increased its elevation by several feet above grade so the vehicles are elevated for display alongside a major road. We also had a small trickle drainage stream across our large plant which had to be dug up and replaced by a large diameter plastic welded pipe all the way to the closest river in the marsh across the road beside the plant.

After this we had to send any chemically contaminated waste to a registered and specially monitored waste disposal site out of state.

That doesn't work for radiation... Any radioactive waste has to be sent to a special disposal site by a properly registered disposal company here in the US.

As a side note: I went by the several hundred-acre chemical plant site the other day that had over 1400 hundred employees and the huge plant had been leveled to the ground. It was completely gone after nearly a hundred years of operation... Made me sick to my stomach...

 

On a related note; I saw a documentary about Windscale, aka Sellafield, Britain’s own nuclear disaster site.
Although I had heard of the incident, I wasn’t aware of its magnitude and the onerous cleanup cost.
Extremely fascinating, look for it on YT.