You can also give a live grenade to a child and walk off but it doesn't mean it was a "GOOD" idea!

Brzrkr

 

Talk about a good idea... Got any idea how many people die daily from automobile accidents???

 

Robust nitrogen-based ligands bind selectively to actinides and separate them for potential reuse in nuclear fuel

[URL]https://cen.acs.org/articles/94/web/2016/06/Ligands-help-recycle-nuclear-waste.htmlhttps://cen.acs.org/articles/94/web/2016/06/Ligands-help-recycle-nuclear-waste.html[/URL]

kv

 

Walking along sandy firebreaks used as forest highways with Shkvyria and her colleague, vole specialist Olena Burdo, we found the tracks of wolf, moose, deer, badger, and horses. I counted scores of birds: ravens, songbirds, three kinds of birds of prey, and dozens of swans paddling in the radioactive cooling pond.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...byl-wildlife-thirty-year-anniversary-science/

kv

 

Walking along sandy firebreaks used as forest highways with Shkvyria and her colleague, vole specialist Olena Burdo, we found the tracks of wolf, moose, deer, badger, and horses. I counted scores of birds: ravens, songbirds, three kinds of birds of prey, and dozens of swans paddling in the radioactive cooling pond.

Did she stick around to see how long it was before they DIED ???

Brzrkr

 

I didn't think I would like this, in the beginning it was so depressing, they are going to finally attempt to drain the water below the reactor, fine speech at the point to bring about bravery. They didn't compensate them enough, they'll never get to spend the money anyway.

kv

 

Did she stick around to see how long it was before they DIED ???

Brzrkr

Who knows if they just landed or not. I'm not sure even how long she stayed there, I sure as hell wouldn't want to investigate it.

kv

 

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...byl-wildlife-thirty-year-anniversary-science/

 

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...byl-wildlife-thirty-year-anniversary-science/

Loved this phrase: “The beaver in Ukraine is exactly like the elephant in Africa: it completely changes the look of the landscape.”

thanks for sharing

 

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...byl-wildlife-thirty-year-anniversary-science/
You did read this part ???
the area sealed to the public after a nuclear power plant exploded here 30 years ago, on April 26, 1986.
Animals aren't that smart... They can't read signs and Damn sure don't understand what radiation is!
Those animals might want to talk to the octopus. The worlds smartest animal.
No one you've posted has really been able to stick around long enough to prove their point because there's TOOOOO much radiation!

Brzrkr

 

The dangers of radiation associated with nuclear power are grossly inflated in the minds of the public.

https://www.freeingenergy.com/what-are-the-risks-of-nuclear-power-plant-radiation-part-3/

There’s a great reference I was reading just the other day on this topic but I haven’t been able to find the link. I was surprised how “safe” nuclear power has been, and that’s mostly with really old designs. The new designs are orders of magnitude cleaner and safer. If people actually cared about global warming and not just the politics of it, we’d be building those like crazy.

 

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...byl-wildlife-thirty-year-anniversary-science/
You did read this part ???
the area sealed to the public after a nuclear power plant exploded here 30 years ago, on April 26, 1986.
Animals aren't that smart... They can't read signs and Damn sure don't understand what radiation is!
Those animals might want to talk to the octopus. The worlds smartest animal.
No one you've posted has really been able to stick around long enough to prove their point because there's TOOOOO much radiation!

Brzrkr

The Lion of radiation. OMG

 

I hope they talk about the down side of nuclear energy. As we (mankind) moves forward in our so called evolution and start learning how things work and try to implement them in our lives I for one disagree with using nuclear power plants. It's not that the energy we get from them but the waste that stays radioactive for thousands of years. We are poor custodians of our own world and this will only come back and bite us in our butts in the future. You can't get rid of this stuff! Placing it underground is like covering up a bomb... you can't see it but the threat is still there. Just let one of those containers start leaking and now the whole place is radioactive. We should have never started using it in the first place.

Brzrkr

While nuclear energy always makes for interesting and lively discussion and people like to talk about shutting down all nuclear power plants something comes to mind. Currently every United States Aircraft Carrier uses two nuclear reactors for their propulsion systems and the same is true for the entire United States Submarine Fleet, every sub is propelled by nuclear power. Would you suggest we just scrap the carrier and submarine fleet?

Anyway, the discussion is about Chernobyl as to the when and why and the aftermath that followed. Now if you happen to be anti-nuclear that's fine but the thread isn't about a stance on nuclear energy.

Ron

 

The dangers of radiation associated with nuclear power are grossly inflated in the minds of the public.

https://www.freeingenergy.com/what-are-the-risks-of-nuclear-power-plant-radiation-part-3/

There’s a great reference I was reading just the other day on this topic but I haven’t been able to find the link. I was surprised how “safe” nuclear power has been, and that’s mostly with really old designs. The new designs are orders of magnitude cleaner and safer. If people actually cared about global warming and not just the politics of it, we’d be building those like crazy.

The problem is the cost. That's how I see it anyway.

Ron

 

While nuclear energy always makes for interesting and lively discussion and people like to talk about shutting down all nuclear power plants something comes to mind. Currently every United States Aircraft Carrier uses two nuclear reactors for their propulsion systems and the same is true for the entire United States Submarine Fleet, every sub is propelled by nuclear power. Would you suggest we just scrap the carrier and submarine fleet?

Anyway, the discussion is about Chernobyl as to the when and why and the aftermath that followed. Now if you happen to be anti-nuclear that's fine but the thread isn't about a stance on nuclear energy.

Ron

Actually, I think that nuclear power is still the best and cleanest way of producing energy. From what I've read, many many things have been learned from all of the previous disasters/accidents, but now the discussion has become political rather than scientific/practical. And most people would rather see the technology banned, and won't listen to reason.

It's a lot like airplanes. They very seldom crash, but when they do, it's almost always catastrophic. And that has an impact in people's psyche.

 

The problem is the cost. That's how I see it anyway.

Ron

We'll get there soon with modular units, driven by the DOD. It'll be incredibly cheaper and more tactical to haul a modular (semi-truck sized) nuclear power station to a field of operations. It's a huge gain compared to establishing a diesel supply chain. It's crazy what it costs to run a generator or a humvee in Iraq, say.

Once the technology gets a little learning curve behind it, it'll be popping up in domestic use for restoring power after natural disasters and such, and then it'll just become commonplace.

 

Actually, I think that nuclear power is still the best and cleanest way of producing energy. From what I've read, many many things have been learned from all of the previous disasters/accidents, but now the discussion has become political rather than scientific/practical. And most people would rather see the technology banned, and won't listen to reason.

It's a lot like airplanes. They very seldom crash, but when they do, it's almost always catastrophic. And that has an impact in people's psyche.

I agree. I was in Russia when it happened and actually spent summer very close to the fallout zone. The government was of course covering up the incident like any other government would. There has been a lot of progress made in the area. Unfortunately when it goes bad it is really big.

People do live there. Is that in the documentary?

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...e-living-in-chernobyls-nuclear-exclusion-zone

 

We'll get there soon with modular units, driven by the DOD. It'll be incredibly cheaper and more tactical to haul a modular (semi-truck sized) nuclear power station to a field of operations. It's a huge gain compared to establishing a diesel supply chain. It's crazy what it costs to run a generator or a humvee in Iraq, say.

Once the technology gets a little learning curve behind it, it'll be popping up in domestic use for restoring power after natural disasters and such, and then it'll just become commonplace.

Actually my former company was developing some small ice compact reactors under the name of M-Power. Eventually the plan was moth balled. Much more to this but I am tired.

Ron

 

Russians blame it on the CIA...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...ia-may-be-to-blame/ar-AACAxos?ocid=spartanntp

 

Russians blame it on the CIA...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...ia-may-be-to-blame/ar-AACAxos?ocid=spartanntp

To me it would be better to say Russia did it to themselves than to admit the CIA played them like children.