Broken Capacitor Replacement

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Neil1454

Joined Apr 26, 2015
4
Hi,

I have a broken Capacitor that I am looking to replace as one of the legs of the capacitor has come out of the capacitor.
I am lacking knowledge when it comes to knowing what I need to replace it. I am assuming that it needs to be the same cap for there to be no issues at all with the card and it be exactly how it should be?

It's for a PC sound card. A Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card.
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=10571

Here are some pictures of the capacitor (it's the large black cap)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hl1ds74vzob4jow/2015-04-26_12.27.46_50.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0radxwu9nc9d2zf/2015-04-26_12.28.17_50.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l14f45r3q8joj6j/2015-04-26_12.28.40_50.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9wmtqoyvgwhq2z6/2015-04-26_12.29.09_50.jpg

If anyone could please advise me to exactly what I would need to get to replace the cap, that would be great.

Thank you! :)
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
21,226
It is labeled as a 220 μfd., 16VDC elctrolytic capacitor. Without knowing what it was used for in a circuit I cannot give a precise and reliable recommendation for a replacement. Given it's proximity to the inductor it might be part of a switching regulator. These circuits generally require low ESR capacitors. How low you ask? I don't know how low is good enough, but the lower the better. The problem is if you guess wrong you could make things worse. I would need a schematic to evaluate the requirement.
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,278
Hello,

It clearly states 220 μF / 16 V.
It is a longlife version as it states 105° on the other side.

Bertus
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
7,523
What you have there is a very common 220 uF 16 Volt capacitor. They were commonly available at any Radio Shack for about $0.99, unfortunately local Radio Shacks are closing up. Any electronics parts house will have them. The remaining task would be to remove the remains of the old capacitor, clean up the board and solder in the replacement part. Assuming that cap is the only problem about a 5 min job with the right tools (soldering pencil and soldering skills). A Google of "220uf 16v capacitor" will find you one. The cap is inexpensive but you are looking at a few bucks likely shipping and handling. If you have any parts houses local to you give them a shot.This is my guess.

Ron
 

Thread Starter

Neil1454

Joined Apr 26, 2015
4
Firstly thank you to ALL of you who replied :)

On research it seems to be this...
Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitor 16v220uf G-LUXON
http://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...ic-Capacitor-16v220uf-G-LUXON_1024628781.html
On my broken cap it also says... 802P(M)
On the one on the site above it says... 605B(M)
Does anyone know what that means?

Is that to do with the low ESR that Papabravo was speaking about? Or will this be the right replacement regardless?

Thanks
 

BillB3857

Joined Feb 28, 2009
2,571
The 802P(M) and 605B(M) labels are probably date codes indicating date and location of manufacture, ie 6th month of 2005 and 8th month of 2002. Not sure of teh P, B and M designations.
 

Thread Starter

Neil1454

Joined Apr 26, 2015
4
Thanks to everyone who has helped !

Hello,

If you want an 220 μF / 16 Volts capacitor with a low ESR and 105 °C temterature rating, have a look at the following one:
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic-ele...ad/dp/2354607?aa=true&categoryId=700000005424

Bertus
Thanks I think this might be what I need.

The 802P(M) and 605B(M) labels are probably date codes indicating date and location of manufacture, ie 6th month of 2005 and 8th month of 2002. Not sure of teh P, B and M designations.
Maybe that is what they are.
 

shteii01

Joined Feb 19, 2010
4,644
Ok, so sorting out all the useless crap we have:
G-Luxon
LU series
220 uF
16 V

What I found:
According to manufacturer this is the same as Teapo SJ series: http://www.luxon.com.tw/Web-En/RadialLead-en.aspx Teapo SJ==Luxon LU
Here is the datasheet: http://www.luxon.com.tw/WebSiteFile/Products/Product_Data/SJ.pdf
It is can 8 mm diameter, 11 mm tall, 620 mA ripple current, 0.1 Ohm (I am guessing this is ESR).

In my limited experience the (M) indicates the tolerance of +/- 20%.
End file.

Here are some useful guidelines that I found when I was looking for info to replace a cap on the power board of my monitor (for the record the cap got replaced and my monitor is back in business after sitting on the shelf in half dismantled condition for a year or more).
For replacements:
- ESR should be the same or lower.
- Ripple should be the same or higher.
- Voltage should be the same or higher. [Without getting ridiculous.]
- Don't wanna change uF unless you have to.
- Also make sure it will physically fit both diameter and height.

From reading badcaps.com, Luxon or G-Luxon is not a very good brand. Not the worst, but not very good either. Considering the prices that Creative charges for their cards... now you know where they make big bucks. Charge high price, use cheap low quality parts whenever possible.
 
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bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,278
Hello,

As stated by shteii01 the ripple current should be higher 4120 vs 620 mA.
The ESR should be lower 13 mOhm vs 100 mOhm.

The farnell cap would fit well.

Bertus
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
Hi,

I have a broken Capacitor that I am looking to replace as one of the legs of the capacitor has come out of the capacitor.
I am lacking knowledge when it comes to knowing what I need to replace it. I am assuming that it needs to be the same cap for there to be no issues at all with the card and it be exactly how it should be?

It's for a PC sound card. A Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card.
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=10571

Here are some pictures of the capacitor (it's the large black cap)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hl1ds74vzob4jow/2015-04-26_12.27.46_50.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0radxwu9nc9d2zf/2015-04-26_12.28.17_50.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l14f45r3q8joj6j/2015-04-26_12.28.40_50.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9wmtqoyvgwhq2z6/2015-04-26_12.29.09_50.jpg

If anyone could please advise me to exactly what I would need to get to replace the cap, that would be great.

Thank you! :)
As someone else observed; the label shows its a 220uF 16V electrolytic, you should note that the label also indicates 105 deg-C - el-cheapo off the shelf parts are often only 85 deg-C.

The SMD inductor close to it hints at the possibility its part of an onboard switching regulator - get a low ESR replacement just to be on the safe side.
 
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