Boost converter cannot handle the load within the specifications with audio noise emission.

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boromyr

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I am using the TPS61089 for the first time, I am designing the circuit using the dedicated online tool webench but I am getting results well below expectations when using higher loads, the output voltage drops drastically and the device starts emitting audible noise.

The power supply comes from a 3.7V lithium battery and the output voltage is set to 12V. The device should be able to provide up to 18W, but when I try to add a load of 17ohm (4 resistors of 68 in parallel) the voltage drops to 4/5V and a buzzing noise is perfectly audible during the voltage drop. What could be causing this anomalous behavior?

Attached is the circuit created with the values extracted from webench.

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Place a 0.047 ohm shunt (or two 0.1 ohms parallel) in series with 6u8 coil and measure its voltage drop to check whether current is nice triangular.
There is a possibility the overcurrent protection is periodically activated.
 
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boromyr

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This is the waveform at the ends of a 1Ω resistor in series with the inductor, far from being triangular. I can't find the ones that are 0.1 anymore.

The inductor has a slightly lower than expected saturation current, 7.3A, the model is SMS0650-6R8MT.
The layout is as similar as possible to that of the datasheet, I only used R and C 0805.
 

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ronsimpson

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The inductor saturates at 7.3A but the IC current limits set at 10A. (100k resistor)
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One ohm current sense resistor, has too much voltage across it.
 
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boromyr

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I also tried using two inductors in parallel to make sure it wasn't a saturation problem, I know it's not actually a good idea but it's just for a test. In theory, for 1A of current there should only be 4.8A of switching current with my current parameters.
 

ronsimpson

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1A @ 12V = 12W out DC
3.7A @ 3.7V = 12W in DC
I did not look to see if you are running Continuous or Discontinuous.
Of the top of my head I think the peak current is higher than 4.8A.
 
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boromyr

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As Michal said, 1Ω is too much, so I bought resistors of 0.1Ω to be able to measure with 0.05Ω.

I also tried to double the saturation current to 14A with two inductors in parallel, but there wasn't much change, even though the inductance value decreased and therefore the initial parameters changed, but still within the device specifications.
 

schmitt trigger

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Putting two inductors in parallel will halve the inductance, meaning that the inductor current will go deeper into DCM mode.
The inductor won’t suffer, the switching device inside the IC is the one that will. You’ll hit the peak current limit sooner.
 

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boromyr

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Even with only one inductor, with a load of 17Ω, 700mA should come out of the boost with a current in the inductor of 4.4A, well below the saturation of the single inductor, which in my case is 7A.
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ronsimpson

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Have you tried starting the PWM with no load then applying the load? During startup the current is very high. You have the IC set to current limit at 10A.
OR
Change the CL resistor from 100k to 150k or 200k. Get the current limit under 7A.

Here is the current in the MOSFET of a similar boost power supply. See what happens at startup.
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boromyr

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Great suggestion, I will try to lower the current limit.

I always start without load, and then apply it, even if the device has a 4ms soft start. Furthermore, at startup even the 1000μF capacitor is sufficient to check the problem, in fact at startup the acoustic noise can be heard for half a second.
 

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boromyr

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Inductive current with a load of 17Ω measured using the low resistance of a series jumper cable.
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Zoom of the previous image
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Voltage on pin SW
 
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