Bad electronics in movies...

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I just watched this movie from 2003 named "The Core", in which a group of scientists are sent to the center of the earth to try to restart the spinning of Earth's core, which stalled for reasons I'm not going to disclose here so as not to spoil it for everyone... The movie is really, really bad, science-wise. And it's even worse electronics-wise... Although I do have to admit that the characters' chemistry between them improves the plot quite a bit and makes it watchable somehow.

Anyway, mi wife and brother couldn't understand why I laughed out loud after watching a scene in which one of the characters is trapped behind a steel door in a room that's about to implode due to the horrific lava pressure on the capsule's outside. (They're supposed to be traveling in an extremely complex and almost indestructible $50B dllr ship) In this scene, the victim's friend is desperately trying to bypass the door's electronic lock by opening a control panel beside it and tweaking with the wires.... here's a couple of pics of the scene in question:

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I say, great work on that splendidly organized and professional-looking wiring that those engineers did inside that sophisticated piece of equipment. :rolleyes:
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Lol a bread board is the electronic device, so sophisticated right?

kv

Edit: So, do I pull the Red wire or the Black and what is that white one?
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Well.... to cut the director a little bit of slack, the character played by Delroy Lindo was the one who supposedly designed the entire ship ... so I'm certain he must've known what he was doing... :rolleyes:
 

jgessling

Joined Jul 31, 2009
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the characters' chemistry between them improves the plot quite a bit and makes it watchable somehow.
I am always amused at experts picking apart movies because of technical faults. Movies are devices of character and emotion. They rely on the audience’s suspension of disbelief for their success. If you as a member of the audience are not willing to play your role in the process then don’t come whining to me. Cmartinez actually knows this as evidenced above but somehow refuses to admit it. It’s your loss and I don’t care.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I am always amused at experts picking apart movies because of technical faults. Movies are devices of character and emotion. They rely on the audience’s suspension of disbelief for their success. If you as a member of the audience are not willing to play your role in the process then don’t come whining to me. Cmartinez actually knows this as evidenced above but somehow refuses to admit it. It’s your loss and I don’t care.
Nah... of course I know movies are meant to be fun and I have no trouble admitting it... If I truly wanted an educational experience I would be watching documentaries instead.

Nevertheless, the suspension of reality is a movie's main appeal for most people, including myself. But if I'm going to watch sci-fi, I'd rather watch something loosely based on real science and not just fantasy pretending to be science... that's why I'm a Trekkie and not a Star Wars fan, for instance... much to @joeyd999 chagrin... :p
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I just watched this movie from 2003 named "The Core", in which a group of scientists are sent to the center of the earth to try to restart the spinning of Earth's core, which stalled for reasons I'm not going to disclose here so as not to spoil it for everyone... The movie is really, really bad, science-wise. And it's even worse electronics-wise... Although I do have to admit that the characters' chemistry between them improves the plot quite a bit and makes it watchable somehow.

Anyway, mi wife and brother couldn't understand why I laughed out loud after watching a scene in which one of the characters is trapped behind a steel door in a room that's about to implode due to the horrific lava pressure on the capsule's outside. (They're supposed to be traveling in an extremely complex and almost indestructible $50B dllr ship) In this scene, the victim's friend is desperately trying to bypass the door's electronic lock by opening a control panel beside it and tweaking with the wires.... here's a couple of pics of the scene in question:

I say, great work on that splendidly organized and professional-looking wiring that those engineers did inside that sophisticated piece of equipment. :rolleyes:
Why are you coming down on 'The Core'? That movie gave up the best science prop ever for why something impossible is working.

 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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I am always amused at experts picking apart movies because of technical faults. Movies are devices of character and emotion. They rely on the audience’s suspension of disbelief for their success. If you as a member of the audience are not willing to play your role in the process then don’t come whining to me. Cmartinez actually knows this as evidenced above but somehow refuses to admit it. It’s your loss and I don’t care.
There's a limit to the degree to which it is reasonable to suspend disbelief.

For me, that limit depends on several things. In the case of the "The Core" that limit was exceeded by the very premise of the movie, so I never bothered to see it. But that would generally support your position that anyone that was willing to watch a movie with that absurd of a premise better just accept anything and everything that they do. Heck, have one of the crew go skin diving outside the ship to straighten the propeller shaft and only get minor burns because they slathered themselves down with sunscreen and lard first, why not?

I'm willing to cut a low-budget independent film quite a bit more slack than a big budget feature film in which actors and screenwriters and directors and editors are getting paid millions of dollars each and they can't be bothered to get simple things right.

I'm even far less willing to cut much slack when the special features on the DVD/BD go to great length to tell you how everything is so realistic and researched and portrayed with the fewest possible deviations from reality -- which is almost always a big red flag that you are going to get stuff like this:

https://www.snotr.com/video/8096/NCIS_2_Idiots_1_Keyboard

Or, from that same series, a person is found sitting in his car on a hot day and he's frozen solid through and through. Turns out he was killed when someone put liquid nitrogen in the hot soup in his thermos bottle and he took one sip of it before leaving for work. Their proof was the liquid nitrogen residue they found inside the thermos. Guess their screenwriters attended the Scooby-Do Sleuthing Seminar, since they solved a mystery by finding the dry ice residue on the villain's shoe.
 

ElectricSpidey

Joined Dec 2, 2017
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What! You mean every bank on the planet doesn't have a convenient access panel to their alarm system located on the outside wall...say it isn't so.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Bad lockpicking in movies burns me up.

Good lockpicking.
Some of the things I find particularly annoying are the things that are done bad over and over and over again. Lockpicking is high on the list. Nearly any form of hacking ranks up there. Always being able to crack encrypted files in a few minutes, unless it's "military grade" encryption, which sometimes requires overnight. Absurdly unrealistic "image enhancement" is very near the top. Then of course there's the revolver that holds twenty or thirty rounds or the machine pistols that must hold a couple thousand. Propane tanks the always explode violently when you shoot them.

One image enhancement trick I've seen a couple of times is where someone is being framed using a photo that has been doctored to replace the guilty party's face with the patsy's face. The good guys, of course, are able to "analyze" the image and reconstruct the original image.

Of particular frustration are cliches that are used repeatedly when the real deal offers so much more opportunity for richer and more interesting plots. Inevitably, tracing an IP address results in the identification and location of a specific computer and they are treated as static throughout all time (in terms of being assigned to a specific computer -- of course the computer might move around to different locations but it always has the same IP address). I'd love to see any movie, no matter how bad it might be otherwise, that acknowledged the distinction between local and globally routable IP addresses and the limitations thereof. Does anyone know of one? I'm not at all sure that one exists.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Some of the things I find particularly annoying are the things that are done bad over and over and over again. Lockpicking is high on the list. Nearly any form of hacking ranks up there. Always being able to crack encrypted files in a few minutes, unless it's "military grade" encryption, which sometimes requires overnight. Absurdly unrealistic "image enhancement" is very near the top. Then of course there's the revolver that holds twenty or thirty rounds or the machine pistols that must hold a couple thousand. Propane tanks the always explode violently when you shoot them.

One image enhancement trick I've seen a couple of times is where someone is being framed using a photo that has been doctored to replace the guilty party's face with the patsy's face. The good guys, of course, are able to "analyze" the image and reconstruct the original image.

Of particular frustration are cliches that are used repeatedly when the real deal offers so much more opportunity for richer and more interesting plots. Inevitably, tracing an IP address results in the identification and location of a specific computer and they are treated as static throughout all time (in terms of being assigned to a specific computer -- of course the computer might move around to different locations but it always has the same IP address). I'd love to see any movie, no matter how bad it might be otherwise, that acknowledged the distinction between local and globally routable IP addresses and the limitations thereof. Does anyone know of one? I'm not at all sure that one exists.
Enhanced

Try running both at the same time.
 
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