Automotive low battery disconnect

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thedrive

Joined Sep 23, 2016
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I follow the reasoning but with a battery that is too weak to run a 5 - 6 amp load for an hour its standing voltage when charged will be too low to begin with making the disconnect false trip all the time.

A new battery when fully charged will stay around 12.5 - 12.9 volts for a long time and even if ran down to around 10% charge will still hold 12+ volts while having enough amperage generating capacity to start the engine.

Whereas with a old worn out battery it may not even hold 12 volts at full charge and will drop off fast from there so even if you cut it off at 11.5 volts it may very well not have enough reserve capacity to produce the amperage needed to start the engine without dropping well below the cut off circuit tripping point if it can start it at all.

Battery protection device work well on new good condition batteries but on old worn out ones they are pointless and just make a nuisance of themselves.

That and very few vehicles have radios that hold their programed settings so every time the battery cut off trips you have to go in and reset everything plus possibly put up with your vehicle's engine computers having to reset and relearn their settings as well.

Personally if it was me I would be looking at why the fan runs after the ignition is off and fixing that design issue. I don't know of any vehicle that does that on purpose.
When called for the fan is supposed to run for 1 hour. Its not factory its something I have made for an experiment I'm working on. Anyway... I wonder what the vehicle manufacturers use and what voltage they are using as a set point to trigger a low battery alarm be sent to the cars information center on these new fancy cars. My in laws car sent an alert last year when we were sitting at the drive in movie theater with the radio and interior lights on for too long. That is what got me thinking about creating this circuit in the first place.
 

takao21203

Joined Apr 28, 2012
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Ive worked a battery to death within some months by deep discharging it now Ive got a new one + a deep discharge protection module. It costed 8 Euro as PCB kit from Germany.

Though max 10A for the relay, and switching off a starter battery is not possible with small relay.

You could switch off the trunk that needs to be powered when alternator is off.

The PCB has a trimmer pot and the manual says 10.8v is the recommended tripping point.
After a disconnect, the battery returns to 12.0 this is what I see next morning.
Theres a thyristor on the PCB so you need to press a pushbutton to start.

Does the job.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Though max 10A for the relay, and switching off a starter battery is not possible with small relay.
You really don't have to disconnect the whole starting system from the battery.

You just need to break the live circuit feed to the ignition switch or to just a few specific sub circuits of the ignition switch output feed.
 

jasone

Joined Nov 2, 2015
50
Some applications will run the low radiator fan after key off. If you are having problems with a dead battery, maybe your battery is weak? Possibly you have a parasitic draw? What kind of car are you working on (year, make, model, or VIN)?

Cranking voltage or load tested voltage of 9.6V or less is considered "bad", 10.4V or less is when things get "weird."
 
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