Amazon’s Astro

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Creepy., creepy, creepy. This is what happens when Amazon's AI hype is forced to crap a product. Can't fetch your beer or even a stick.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/93ypp8/leaked-documents-amazon-astro-surveillance-robot-tracking

The meeting document spells out the process in a much blunter way than Amazon's cutesy marketing suggests.
"Vesta slowly and intelligently patrols the home when unfamiliar person are around, moving from scan point to scan point (the best location and pose in any given space to look around) looking and listening for unusual activity," one of the files reads. "Vesta moves to a predetermined scan point and pose to scan any given room, looking past and over obstacles in its way. Vesta completes one complete patrol when it completes scanning all the scan point on the floorplan."

"Astro is terrible and will almost certainly throw itself down a flight of stairs if presented the opportunity."
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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"Astro is terrible and will almost certainly throw itself down a flight of stairs if presented the opportunity."
There literally wasn’t a laugh symbol that matched me laughing after I read this to my wife. ROTFL

Plus, I spend hrs a day working with home security devices for Vivint, I once presented to an individual who wanted to purchase a camera one day, but I told them a camera often will only just capture a crime in action, thief's commit a crime so quickly but doesn’t stop it. I told them eventually we will have robots to stop criminals and apprehend them but not in this life time.

I think expectations need to be addressed first, at least I do that, deal with any issues or concerns with their equipment fix that and stop to make sure their completely on board with an expense they may regret. I’m sure the bean counters hate me for that but I want to go to sleep at night after a long day.

I enjoy Technology, but sometimes people have no clue, and others take advantage that.

kv
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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What a BS article. No mention made of when these so-called developers who "worked in the project", actually worked on the project. No doubt that initial developments had trouble identifying stairs and making claims like, "it will throw itself down stairs" means, those were crap developers and it is unlikely they would be kept on the project if they couldn't write decent code.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Now that I think about it, we had a vendor setup a Camera with Tracking, it watched us, what I mean is it felt like it was actually watching us. I can honestly say most things don’t creep me. I thought the price for the Tech was low at $10k the rotation or movement was as if it was mimicking a human head side to side, up and down, angular criss cross, it was tracking at least 7 of us at a time.

The Tech will get cheaper 20 years ago that piece of equipment would easily be 20k not even close to what that thing could do.


kv

Edit: Back before I retired at the Uni at end of 2019.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Now that I think about it, we had a vendor setup a Camera with Tracking, it watched us, what I mean is it felt like it was actually watching us. I can honestly say most things don’t creep me. I thought the price for the Tech was low at $10k the rotation or movement was as if it was mimicking a human head side to side, up and down, angular criss cross, it was tracking at least 7 of us at a time.

The Tech will get cheaper 20 years ago that piece of equipment would easily be 20k not even close to what that thing could do.


kv

Edit: Back before I retired at the Uni at end of 2019.
A 2D gimbal is is pretty cheap and a technology is mostly code. Dilute the development across 100 units and the code still feels "expensive". Now dilute over 500,000 units and you can sell at a very low price and still make some bank.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Somewhat off topic but I had an appointment today at the VA (Veteran Administration) hospital. Over several years now they have these robots roaming the hallways. They shuttle medications and paperwork throughout the entire facility. They even can call and use the elevators and if you step in front of one it stops. Really pretty cool little machines. They just tool around doing their thing.

As to the toaster, I really didn't need a fresh gulp of cider through the nose. Seriously funny. :)

Ron
 

ElectricSpidey

Joined Dec 2, 2017
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In response to post #7

Of course it's never too late to shoot a home invader, but my point was the best security is getting a warning at point of entry. Someone could be in a deep sleep when an invader picks the lock on a door, then be in their bedroom before that thing decides that the intruder doesn't belong there.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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In response to post #7

Of course it's never too late to shoot a home invader, but my point was the best security is getting a warning at point of entry. Someone could be in a deep sleep when an invader picks the lock on a door, then be in their bedroom before that thing decides that the intruder doesn't belong there.
After the trip-wire goes off...
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AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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Creepy., creepy, creepy. This is what happens when Amazon's AI hype is forced to crap a product. Can't fetch your beer or even a stick.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/93ypp8/leaked-documents-amazon-astro-surveillance-robot-tracking
I have a very simple, cheap, robot vauum cleaner that has a simple optical sensor to detect the floor and if the floor disappears it stops and reverses so it doesn't fall down stairs. If this new thing really doesn't have any such sensor then it doesn't say much about the design process.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I have a very simple, cheap, robot vauum cleaner that has a simple optical sensor to detect the floor and if the floor disappears it stops and reverses so it doesn't fall down stairs. If this new thing really doesn't have any such sensor then it doesn't say much about the design process.
It's an intelligent robot. It has to learn not to fall.
 
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