Aligning IC Pins with DIP sockets

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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Make sense? No. Because a Commodore 64 does not use 6502. It uses 6510 which is an upgrade from the 6502.
The Commodore VIC 20 uses 6502.

If you wanted to play around with small 8-bit MCUs there are a lot more modern chips which would be a lot less headaches than a MOS Technology 6502.
 

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bibble235

Joined May 29, 2018
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Make sense? No. Because a Commodore 64 does not use 6502. It uses 6510 which is an upgrade from the 6502.
The Commodore VIC 20 uses 6502.

If you wanted to play around with small 8-bit MCUs there are a lot more modern chips which would be a lot less headaches than a MOS Technology 6502.
Well, for me, it does. A walk down memory lane. Incidentally there is software around the world in telephony switching which uses port 6502 just because of my love for this chip. Sometimes (for me) how you feel and not about being rational - like love. (I see there are also T-shirts for the 6510 too)
https://bagsystreetware.teemill.com/product/6510-t-shirt/
 

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bibble235

Joined May 29, 2018
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Fine. How do you propose to write code for the 6502?
Well, A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I did something called assembly language, it is what started me in IT. I intend to do the same (don't have a tape with it on so all from memory) Strange as I look at the Pico and PIO it seems to be coming back in fashion - better get my flared jeans out.
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MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Well, A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I did something called assembly language, it is what started me in IT. I intend to do the same (don't have a tape with it on so all from memory) Strange as I look at the Pico and PIO it seems to be coming back in fashion - better get my flared jeans out.
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I guess the real question is, how do you compile the assembly language to hex code and get it from your computer to the chip?
 

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bibble235

Joined May 29, 2018
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I guess the real question is, how do you compile the assembly language to hex code and get it from your computer to the chip?
Haven't check and could be wrong but I think, hold on while I look this up, ahh, Ben Eater explains how I think. Hey I get this far I will solve it.

I think you can just put the assembly through something and out pops binary. I think I remember poking and peeking but I am sure things will have moved on to do this and I think Ben shows you how to load it in. I have a chisel if all else fails.
 

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bibble235

Joined May 29, 2018
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I think you’re already in over your head.
A place I have been familiar with over the years. My purpose in going down the electronics root was to test this. And I must admit, it does scare me when I read providing the power and the ground without also ensure other pins are connected will blow the chip does scare me a little. But the coding hows no fears what so ever. I have down assembly on AS/400s, COBOL on DPS/6s and Rust on a Pico, even done punch cards on a Prime. so how hard can that part be.
My biggest challenge is finding free time to do it all. Still full time employed and still wanting to provide my best work.
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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And I must admit, it does scare me when I read providing the power and the ground without also ensure other pins are connected will blow the chip does scare me a little.
It's an NMOS part, so all of the inputs and outputs can be damaged by ESD. Just get an antistatic mat and/or grounding strap. I handled NMOS/PMOS/CMOS parts without an ESD strap for decades. I worked on CCD prototypes that didn't have any ESD protection when I was an R&D technician and I never damaged any parts because I made sure to ground myself before handling them.
 

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bibble235

Joined May 29, 2018
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Haven't check and could be wrong but I think, hold on while I look this up, ahh, Ben Eater explains how I think. Hey I get this far I will solve it.

I think you can just put the assembly through something and out pops binary. I think I remember poking and peeking but I am sure things will have moved on to do this and I think Ben shows you how to load it in. I have a chisel if all else fails.
Had a quick look at building assembly for the C64. This can be done following https://github.com/Esshahn/acme-assembly-vscode-template. Had a bit of trouble with VICE but got it running on Ubuntu 22.04 - Probably not for everyone. All help is appreciated. Thanks all regarding the pin straightener
 

Jon Chandler

Joined Jun 12, 2008
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Is it really proper to argue with a poster about what he wants to do and why, and continue to press the issue again and again and AGAIN?

This thread isn't even about 6502s; the original poster doesn't need to justify anything here.
 
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