Aliens at last?

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Or blunt stupidity ... depending on how you choose to interpret it ...
I see it as 'faith'. Aliens are a 'supernatural' substitute. Magic instead of science is expected and required for belief in the 'higher' power.
They are the priests.
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that will save us.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Right now the discussion of object 3I/ATLAS is all the rage among my friends. And this Loeb dude is causing a big disturbance among amateur science enthusiasts:



Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb currently says there is a 30-40 percent chance the object is not natural in origin.

I tell them that it's good that someone is considering the possibility of this thing being of artificial origin. But that extraordinary evidence is needed to make that judgement, and so far Mr Loeb has not produced any. And that a 30-40 % chance of it being artificial is humongous and no single observation is giving reason for that being the case ... but boy, it's hard to try to reason with people that insist on believing otherwise ...
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Right now the discussion of object 3I/ATLAS is all the rage among my friends. And this Loeb dude is causing a big disturbance among amateur science enthusiasts:






I tell them that it's good that someone is considering the possibility of this thing being of artificial origin. But that extraordinary evidence is needed to make that judgement, and so far Mr Loeb has not produced any. And that a 30-40 % chance of it being artificial is humongous and no single observation is giving reason for that being the case ... but boy, it's hard to try to reason with people that insist on believing otherwise ...
He's going to have a hell of a career going forward if there are aliens in that thing.

And none at all if there are not.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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99.999999 percent chance it's a comet disguised as a alien craft.
Meanwhile, Tom Statler, NASA lead scientist for solar system small bodies, has also weighed in on Avi Loeb’s suggestion that comet 3I/ATLAS is an alien spacecraft.

“It looks like a comet. It does comet things. It very, very strongly resembles, in just about every way, the comets that we know,” he said, adding, “It has some interesting properties that are a little bit different from our solar system comets, but it behaves like a comet. And so the evidence is overwhelmingly pointing to this object being a natural body. It’s a comet.”
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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He's going to have a hell of a career going forward if there are aliens in that thing.

And none at all if there are not.
It would be nice if the latter were true, but he's been real careful to couch his words so that he can claim that he never said that he believed it actually was an alien craft, and you can bet he will go to lengths to point that out forcefully when the time comes.

But, he is pretty clearly a publicity-seeking hack that wants his fifteen minutes of fame -- and, of course, there's more than enough morons in the news and entertainment (is there actually a difference) more than willing to accommodate him.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Indeed, the Gamma-Ray Spectrometer data from Mars Odyssey points to water ice possibly still existing there in some quantity. At some point, local heating events, perhaps from distant volcanoes, impacts or long-term orbital variations, would have melted the subsurface ice and brines, and the liquid water would have run through cracks and fractures in the ground, dissolving the rock and turning those cracks into large caves.
 
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