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MrSalts

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Yeah, I heard the Russians find eastern-block hookers ("escorts"), dress them up, pay them a very modest salary, threaten to kill their families' if they don't follow instructions - then the escorts are flown to a western country with a handler that introduces them to rich men in Western countries. I find it hard to believe any rich American American man would fall for such a lame trick. He'd have to be really desperate and lonely to prove his manliness to someone (anyone?).

Imagine if one of those honeypots got inside some CEO's home, access to his laptop, office conversations. Wow.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Yeah, I heard the Russians find eastern-block hookers ("escorts"), dress them up, pay them a very modest salary, threaten to kill their families' if they don't follow instructions - then the escorts are flown to a western country with a handler that introduces them to rich men in Western countries. I find it hard to believe any rich American American man would fall for such a lame trick. He'd have to be really desperate and lonely to prove his manliness to someone (anyone?).

Imagine if one of those honeypots got inside some CEO's home, access to his laptop, office conversations. Wow.
How soon we forget.
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/7648...ussia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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The best lie is a big lie.
There are and were plenty of 'undercover' agents but she wasn't one.

https://newrepublic.com/article/153036/maria-butina-profile-wasnt-russian-spy
“They hate me in Russia, because they think I’m an American spy. And here they think I’m a Russian spy.”

“If I’m a spy,” she added, “I’m the worst spy you could imagine.”
When I asked Frank Figliuzzi, the former head of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, about the prosecution’s conduct, he was angry. “I am troubled and hope there is a full inquiry,” he told me. “This is disturbing. The question is whether this is convenient ineptitude or something far deeper.”

“They manipulated the evidence,” was the opinion of a former assistant U.S. attorney familiar with the Washington, D.C., office. It was a place he had spent many years prosecuting cases. “The government is basically calling her a whore in a public filing.... I think it was an attempt to influence media coverage.” He added, “This seems like somebody panicked, they moved too early, now they’re trying to figure out what to do.”
Prosecutors back off claim that accused Russian agent Maria Butina traded sex for access
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7136de-b3a2-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html
U.S. prosecutors have acknowledged they misunderstood text messages they used to claim in court that a Russian woman traded sex for access and should be jailed pending trial on charges she was a foreign agent attempting to infiltrate the National Rifle Association and other American conservative groups.

The concession came in a late-night court filing Friday in which prosecutors said Maria Butina, 29, should stay in custody as a flight risk but wrote “the government’s understanding of this particular text conversation was mistaken.”


Prosecutors said she has deep ties to Russia and few connections to the United States. They also assert other materials and communications investigators uncovered throw doubt on Butina’s claim that she should be freed on bond because she has U.S. ties in her longtime relationship with Paul Erickson, a South Dakota-based Republican consultant she met in Moscow in 2013 and with whom she has been romantically linked.
 
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nsaspook

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Not a spy, more like a political operative.

Bob
Spy or not, she wasn't using sex as a tool to gain information.

A Russian political operative working with the NRA to maintain The right to keep and bear arms in the USA so we can kill those commies sounds like a strange duty for a possible Russian agent.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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The enemies of the west don't plan to shoot at us any time soon. They are just helping the US get to the end of the organized chaos that we call a free society. Their only goal now is to polarize the US (probably doing it to the UK as well). They are using that LEFT/RIGHT polarization to for their intermediate goal of "divide and conquer" or divide to conquer. Imagine the ICBMs coming over the horizon nobody in the US agreeing on what to do or who has authority to make decisions?

@nsaspook , If she was not a spy, and I agree she wasn't a spy, do you have a better explanation than @BobTPH 's of her goal to come to the US to get involved with the NRA? It was not just her love of guns and impulsive need to help Americans preserve their second amendment rights, right?
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Spy or not, she wasn't using sex as a tool to gain information.

A Russian political operative working with the NRA to maintain The right to keep and bear arms in the USA so we can kill those commies sounds like a strange duty for a possible Russian agent.
From the Wikipedia article you didn't read...
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Not if you are trying to destabilize the U.S. by getting a pro-Russian idiot elected.
The guns are NOT for killing commies.

Bob
This is getting silly into disproved conspiracy theory land and way off topic. My only reason for replying about her was to say the woman wasn't some sort of sex spy. Even the government admitted that wasn't true.
 
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