Act of War?

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profbuxton

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So your'e concerned that whatever the Cubans did might be an "Act of War"? Now thats a laugh, a sonic thingy being called an "ACT of War" by the Americans.
I seem to recall that you guys were behind a certain invasion of Cuba some time ago. Remember the Bay of pigs( how appropriate). If that wasn't an "Act of War" organised by the US state then the nazis invasion of Poland was just a picnic stroll.
 

nsaspook

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So your'e concerned that whatever the Cubans did might be an "Act of War"? Now thats a laugh, a sonic thingy being called an "ACT of War" by the Americans.
I seem to recall that you guys were behind a certain invasion of Cuba some time ago. Remember the Bay of pigs( how appropriate). If that wasn't an "Act of War" organised by the US state then the nazis invasion of Poland was just a picnic stroll.
Sure it (Bay of pigs) was an 'Act of War' by the usual suspects that almost led to a nuclear war with the Soviets a little later and that fact (in agreement with you) makes calling this, the same thing, sort of silly.
 
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nsaspook

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Everything's been speculation so far. The question is how much more time and resources would be wise to invest into solving this mystery.
It's done.

The Soviets were actually using low energy microwaves on US embassy buildings as a surveillance snooping tool.
https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-069X-11-85
Microwaves in the cold war: the Moscow embassy study and its interpretation. Review of a retrospective cohort study

We had detectors for this and other tricks they used. If a high power microwave weapon was used in Cuba it would have been detected in a microsecond by the local security group personal. I've looked at the open media for the attacks, there are zero reports of RF detection for something that was used on tens of people in various hotels, official building and homes.
 

cmartinez

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"The whole 'microwave' theory is not because someone has any intelligence to suggest it, or someone saw it happen,"

A zero real information story. Since when did "headaches and sleeplessness" become evidence of a possible enemy attack?
While I agree with your skepticism, I find the recurrence and similarities of the reported cases quite strange...

Mass hysteria?
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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The level of reporting on this has been. Well, let’s say less than stellar. I read one article saying that you could not make a detector for it because it would destroy the electronics. Think about it!

Another article said the US has microwave weapons that destroy electronics but do not harm humans because much more power is requited for that.

So, why have I not seen a report about the destroyed cell phones on many of the victims? That would be strong evidence for a microwave weapon. And its absence would be evidence against, though not as strong since it is possible that a weapon could be designed to effect humans but not electronics by some unknown means.

Bob
 

BobTPH

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The other thing that makes no sense, is these new "attacks" on the mall in DC or near the White House.

I was on a grand jury in Worcester MA. For nearly all of the street crime, we had videos. I suspect that there is more video surveillance around the White House than on a random street in Worcester. So, has anyone looked at these videos for suspicious activity? I guess it is possible that the microwave weapon is small and easily concealable, but my bet would be that, if it exists, it is more like a van or truck carrying some seriously large equipment. How have they escaped video surveillance?

Bob
 

atferrari

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The other thing that makes no sense, is these new "attacks" on the mall in DC or near the White House.

I was on a grand jury in Worcester MA. For nearly all of the street crime, we had videos. I suspect that there is more video surveillance around the White House than on a random street in Worcester. So, has anyone looked at these videos for suspicious activity? I guess it is possible that the microwave weapon is small and easily concealable, but my bet would be that, if it exists, it is more like a van or truck carrying some seriously large equipment. How have they escaped video surveillance?

Bob
Their van was disguised as a genuine video surveillance unit; that's why.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...ave-weapons-are-undetectable/?sh=42c5bc45cc3f

Interestingly, it turns out that people are less vulnerable to radiation than electronics. “Because irradiance levels needed to injure personnel are orders of magnitude higher than required to damage electronics, designing a broad band absorber with appropriate response characteristic will require substantial innovation,” DHA noted.

Phase I of the project calls for determining the effects of microwave radiation on humans, and conceiving a design for the device that includes an antenna that can survive intense radiation. Phase II calls for a prototype, followed by a Phase III transition to users such as the Air Force Medical Readiness Agency's Advanced Development Office or the Army’s Program Manager for Soldier Survivability.

The obvious answer to those questions and facts is the 'Directed Energy Attack' scenario is likely BS. DC has been under high level electronic surveillance for decades looking for foreign spies using microwaves to snoop on classified sessions and members of government. The fact EM emissions have 'never' been detected on any of these attacks in places where we expect EM emissions to happen is IMO solid evidence that it's not happening.
 

BobTPH

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Perhaps the directed energy weapon is intentional misinformation? But to what end? Don't want to fall into the conspiracy theory vortex.

Bob
 

nsaspook

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Perhaps the directed energy weapon is intentional misinformation? But to what end? Don't want to fall into the conspiracy theory vortex.

Bob
They are hiding the Alien Lizard People abduction conspiracy with the Directed Energy Weapon conspiracy.

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An old report filled with conspiracy theory and questionable 'science'.

It's not really a conspiracy, it's more likely people latching on to something that's been talked about as a weapon (we have hardened modern weapons system to directed EM) for a long time. Nobody is saying these types of weapons are impossible but most are saying they are easily detectable and identified, using decades old technology, as directed energy weapons.
 
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