555 timer output wrong levels

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jonfair

Joined Dec 1, 2015
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I've connected a 556 as two one shots. Both circuits are identical. Threshold/discharge are connected to a 10k to Vcc and a 10u to ground. The trigger is connected to a 4k7 to vcc and the collector of a BC548 transistor. The output in both cases goes to a 7408. On one side, the output swings from a few millivolts to 3v3. On the other side the output swings from 1v5 to Vcc, I've removed everything from the outputs except the 7408. Why is it so? How can I make the 555 swing from a few millivolts up to Vcc?
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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Welcome to AAC!
How can I make the 555 swing from a few millivolts up to Vcc?
You don't mention whether you're using bipolar or CMOS 555's, but you can't get what what you want in either case.

Bipolar specs:
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Minimum VOL not specified, but typically 50mV. Guaranteed VOH 2.75V.

CMOS specs:
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If you're driving TTL, why do you care what the output swing is? Both satisfy TTL logic levels:
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jonfair

Joined Dec 1, 2015
10
Welcome to AAC!
You don't mention whether you're using bipolar or CMOS 555's, but you can't get what what you want in either case.

Bipolar specs:
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Minimum VOL not specified, but typically 50mV. Guaranteed VOH 2.75V.

CMOS specs:
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If you're driving TTL, why do you care what the output swing is? Both satisfy TTL logic levels:
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Hi guys. Thanks for such fast and useful responses. I'm using an NE556N to drive an HD74LS08P, so I believe I need a voltage of less that 400 mV to secure a logic lo and more than 1.5 volts to secure a logic hi. I assume the 555 ought to be able to swing this?
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
18,220
I'm using an NE556N to drive an HD74LS08P, so I believe I need a voltage of less that 400 mV to secure a logic lo and more than 1.5 volts to secure a logic hi. I assume the 555 ought to be able to swing this?
More than adequate, but your voltages for 74LS08 aren't correct:
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jonfair

Joined Dec 1, 2015
10
There must be a fault somewhere. Either in your wiring or in the ICs themselves.
Hi Marley
you have the right of it. I rebuilt the circuit and both ides of the timer are now working perfectly. Still can't find the fault on the board though, so I assume the chip was a dud.
 
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