555 ic troubles. why?

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RickSmit

Joined Sep 13, 2024
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It seems like the transistor is ON, and it also seems like the very fast pulse rate is preventing you from seeing any problems. And you don't have a larger value of capacitor to get a much slower pulse rate. WITH the transformer disconnected.
But there are a whole bunch of big flaws in the circuit as posted in post #16. First, the supply voltage is way too lowf0or correct operation, and using a voltage divider to power a 555 timer IC will assure poor operation. Next, the collector load resistor is too low a resistance, while the current limiting resistor in series with the transformer primary is too high. The adjustments make it better than the first version in post #4, but it still will not work.
FIRST, supply the 555 timer with12 volts DC, and then the evaluation can continue.
i understand the resistor volt divider being wonky thing.... my first was a zener regulator but current was too high and 555 broke. guess i should hv used a shunt regulater where volts is made less by resister and zener but again a resistor is present(unless you can recogmend a better way to get 17.5 to 12v)...

i only have this PSU so my 17.5 1A adapter power is what i must use... and yeah trying to get everthing to 12v but as soon as i connect transistor the power drops to 700mv output. like its automatically only give the transister as much as it needs and not more

question.... cant i take the transistor out? why is it there to begin with other than to invert the output?
 

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RickSmit

Joined Sep 13, 2024
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laast night i had a thought, may transister only gets what it needs as its the only thin left in that branch, so i decided to make a resistive divider between collector and emmitter for less volts on gate but i had a hunch that the second resistor will act to pull up the transister voltage. and it did. to Vcc voltage...

I will try this:
@A-- i made base resistor higher (470 is convenient as i hav 1w 470's,
@B-- i added a forward diode for accidental testing backwards current, reverse 6v zener to bring voltage down under 6V( maybe i can do a higher zener for lower voltage
@C-- using a 12volt zener as shunt regulator to replace other 470ohm.
@D-- a load after emmitter
@E-- i took out primary resistor
@C1-- 5.6uF is the smallest ''big'' cap i have. according to f=1.44/(R1+2R2)C1 i will have a frequancy of max 28~30Hz lowest 0.013Hz I HOPE... ill replace the cap after im done for hier freq.
i do understand that transforemer output will be LOW thats fine for now. I will let you know how it goes. i will remake circuit completely.
 

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RickSmit

Joined Sep 13, 2024
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laast night i had a thought, may transister only gets what it needs as its the only thin left in that branch, so i decided to make a resistive divider between collector and emmitter for less volts on gate but i had a hunch that the second resistor will act to pull up the transister voltage. and it did. to Vcc voltage...

I will try this:
@A-- i made base resistor higher (470 is convenient as i hav 1w 470's,
@B-- i added a forward diode for accidental testing backwards current, reverse 6v zener to bring voltage down under 6V( maybe i can do a higher zener for lower voltage
@C-- using a 12volt zener as shunt regulator to replace other 470ohm.
@D-- a load after emmitter
@E-- i took out primary resistor
@C1-- 5.6uF is the smallest ''big'' cap i have. according to f=1.44/(R1+2R2)C1 i will have a frequancy of max 28~30Hz lowest 0.013Hz I HOPE... ill replace the cap after im done for hier freq.
i do understand that transforemer output will be LOW thats fine for now. I will let you know how it goes. i will remake circuit completely.
SUCCESS sorta... the transister now gets 3volts. if i probe it at pin3 through the 470 through emitter to ground, i read 3volts and i added a led at emitter to show its working.

BUT NOW the psu,whole thing flashes again, off and on.. whats the problem? if i test the voltage at 22ohm through gate to ground i get full load. i guess the mosfet is not swithing. only has constant voltage at base... right? any suggestions?

also no amount of big cap at c1 makes it flicker slow. i even added a 470uF extra. and having the 5.6uF should hv slown it down enough to see. is the 555 broken?
 
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