150nf Capasitor reading 10.23 Ohm on ESR meter.

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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.It says it is an IN-CIRCUIT tester. Does that mean it will also test a component by itself?
The "in circuit" comment means it runs its test signal below 0.65V and thus shouldn't turn on any nearby semiconductors. The measurement looks at how low the test signal gets pulled down by the cap. Lower voltage equals lower ESR.
 

The Electrician

Joined Oct 9, 2007
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Hi all,

Is this normal reading for a 150nf capacitor ? Please see the photo.
The MESR-100 meter doesn't measure the true ESR of a capacitor. Like many of these low cost ESR meters, it measures the impedance magnitude.

Here's a description of 3 methods of measuring ESR of a capacitor: http://www.midwestdevices.com/pdfs/Tnote3.pdf

The MESR-100 is using method #1 described in that tech note. This technique can't be used for capacitors whose reactance at the measurement frequency is substantially greater than the resistive part of the impedance (ESR in other words).

At 100 kHz, the reactance of a 150 nF capacitor is a little more than 10 ohms, and that's quite a bit more than the ESR should be.

Here's a measurement of a mylar 150 nF capacitor done on an impedance analyzer. The analyzer can show the impedance magnitude (Z) and separate it into the reactance (X) and resistance (Rs, which is the ESR):

Mylar.png

Mylar is one of the worst (but cheap) plastic film dielectrics. You can see that the ESR of this capacitor is .321 ohms, but the reactance is -10.774 ohms. The reactance and resistance combine vectorially to give an impedance magnitude of 10.779 ohms. Your MESR-100 is measuring an impedance magnitude of 10.23 ohms, which is what one would expect for a 150 nF capacitor, but this is not the ESR.

Here's a measurement of a polypropylene capacitor under the same conditions:

PolyPro.png

Notice how much lower the ESR is; only 11.27 milliohms. So-called ESR meters using method 1 as described in the above referenced tech note can't measure the ESR of capacitors as small as 150 nF. They do OK on capacitors greater than 10 uF.

So, you can't really tell anything about your capacitor's ESR with the MESR-100.

But there is a small, low cost meter that can do the job and it costs little more then the MESR-100. It has come on the market in the last few years and can be had for around $100: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5...677109?hash=item211bffe9b5:g:pIQAAOSwpDdVbt9a
 
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AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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Do not plug it in with that capacitor missing. 400V is very likely what is required in that part of that circuit. A 250V rated one will not last long.
 
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