12V 1.2 amp Battery charging.

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Chetan_Jadhav

Joined Mar 2, 2017
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Hi,
I have laptop charger whose output is 19V 3.42Amp.
Can I use it to charge 12V 1.2 Amp battery?
Is it safe to connect it directly to battery or I have to do some changes to reduce its output voltage and current?
thanks in anticipation.
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
7,501
If you connect the 19V/3.42Amp power to the 12V/1.2A battery then it could be destroy the battery, because the voltage is too high, so don't do that, and different battery has different voltage charing condition, maybe using 12.8 V or 13.8V or other voltages, so you have to know what kind of battery that you are trying to charge.

Search LM317 circuit to adjust the output voltage to suit what the battery can afford it.
 

Rahulk70

Joined Dec 16, 2016
538
Hi,
I assume you are talking about those small 12V 1.2Ah SLA battery. You need to reduce to voltage to 13.8V-13.9V for Standby and 14-14.4V for cyle use. Also for this small battery the initial charging current should be less than 1A I think. You could get one of those cheap DC-DC down buck converters like a cheap LM2596 with both voltage and current adjustment or XL4015 etc. or get those small motorcycle 12/6V 800mA lead acid chargers.
Do not use that 19V laptop adapter directly. You boil off all the electrolyte and destroy the battery.Plus it could heat up and explode too.
 

IMP002017

Joined Jan 28, 2017
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ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
Hi,
I have laptop charger whose output is 19V 3.42Amp.
Can I use it to charge 12V 1.2 Amp battery?
Is it safe to connect it directly to battery or I have to do some changes to reduce its output voltage and current?
thanks in anticipation.
No - assuming the PSU survives, it will boil the battery dry and probably warp the plates.

The absolute simplest would be a current limiting resistor to drop the excess voltage - but it will gas the electrolyte away if you leave it charging too long.

A simple constant current circuit would be better - but not much.

You need to limit the voltage to 14.4 under any circumstances - and it will still gas dry if you leave it charging.

Most commercial "smart" chargers detect full charge and throttle back to 13.6V to prevent excessive gassing.
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
Hi,
I assume you are talking about those small 12V 1.2Ah SLA battery. You need to reduce to voltage to 13.8V-13.9V for Standby and 14-14.4V for cyle use. Also for this small battery the initial charging current should be less than 1A I think. You could get one of those cheap DC-DC down buck converters like a cheap LM2596 with both voltage and current adjustment or XL4015 etc. or get those small motorcycle 12/6V 800mA lead acid chargers.
Do not use that 19V laptop adapter directly. You boil off all the electrolyte and destroy the battery.Plus it could heat up and explode too.
In a fully flat lead acid battery; all the acid is in the plates and the electrolyte is heading in the general direction of distilled water - actual 100% pure distilled water is not conductive.

Normal procedure is current limiting at 1/3Ah capacity with about 29V available.

As charge current recovers, it will pull the voltage down - at around 10.8 - 11.5V, you should switch to constant voltage charging. That phase of bulk charging is 14.4V for flooded cell batteries - it may be different for SLA.
 

Rahulk70

Joined Dec 16, 2016
538
In a fully flat lead acid battery; all the acid is in the plates and the electrolyte is heading in the general direction of distilled water - actual 100% pure distilled water is not conductive.

Normal procedure is current limiting at 1/3Ah capacity with about 29V available.

As charge current recovers, it will pull the voltage down - at around 10.8 - 11.5V, you should switch to constant voltage charging. That phase of bulk charging is 14.4V for flooded cell batteries - it may be different for SLA.
Yes, but in normal case the battery is not usually discharged below 30% to prolong its life. He should charge at about 400mA. I think the 1.2Ah cells are only available in AGM SLA form factor. Its best to get an automatic smart type charger for SLAs while flooded ones are more forgiving and we can always refill with water.
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
Yes, but in normal case the battery is not usually discharged below 30% to prolong its life. He should charge at about 400mA. I think the 1.2Ah cells are only available in AGM SLA form factor. Its best to get an automatic smart type charger for SLAs while flooded ones are more forgiving and we can always refill with water.
You can refill a SLA - it just voids the warranty, that's all.
 

Rahulk70

Joined Dec 16, 2016
538
You can refill a SLA - it just voids the warranty, that's all.
Yes. We can but the issue is that unlike flooded we can't see the water level and the acid might overflow while charging. But yeah, you can get some juice out of it.Actually I do it to most of my SLA cells. This way I've managed to get batteries beyond 3 years.
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
Yes. We can but the issue is that unlike flooded we can't see the water level and the acid might overflow while charging. But yeah, you can get some juice out of it.Actually I do it to most of my SLA cells. This way I've managed to get batteries beyond 3 years.
I used to have free access to scrap UPS boxes - the batteries were always gassed out. This leaves a small amount of concentrated acid and the battery sulphates even when charged.

The antics I used to recover a few of them are verboten on this forum................
 
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