Bill, I can't help but think that your comments here are meant for me. I'll admit to a personal attack on Gore when I call him a hypocrite, but I don't believe he merely got his facts wrong; there are so many errors, misstatements, and omissions that I have to believe that he had a purpose behind them. My purpose in saying what I did about Gore is not to cast aspersions on his character or lack thereof: it was to convince some of the participants in this forum that the matter is NOT settled, and that there are reputable climate scientists who disagree with what Gore purports to be "fact."It is interesting that when arguing side personalities seem to enter in, which is one of the many reasons it is hard to discuss this issue rationally. I am not a defender of Al Gore, he probably did get a lot of his facts wrong, but what does that have to do with the core issues?
I agree. Unfortunately, many of the personal attacks have come from the people on Gore's side. The most egregious examples are slurring dissenters of his theory as "deniers," an attempt to lump them in with Holocaust deniers, labelling them as "flat earthers," and, as I mentioned earlier, marginalizing what they are saying by accusing them of being in the pocket of Big Oil.Anytime a personal attack is used as an argument it shows a weakness in the arguments being used, it is a major misinformation tactic.
Amen, brother. Unfortunately, many on Gore's side, including Gore himself, do not want this conversation to occur, saying that the time for debate is over, that the vast majority of scientists are in agreement, et cetera, et cetera.This is not an accusation, but a suggestion to stick to the facts. Having seen this road gone down before I would like to see this thread stay open, because it is a discussion that needs to happen, everywhere.
well yeah, i agree we have played a part in increasing Global warming but Nature too has played a part. No matter what we do, we can not completely combat this problem.Problem is, it ain't natural. It's man made, and as such we have some control over it.
Declaring it an act of God is a major cop out, and an excuse to do nothing, not even try.
If we try and fail, we'll have at least learned something in the process. If we sit on our butts and hope God sorts it out we deserve all we get.
So giving up and not trying is an answer? I think not. Fatalistic attitudes can only make this problem worse. The people and corporations who depend on it only get richer, they'll have the money to get out of the way of whatever happens. Most of them can't see further than 5 years into the future anyhow.well yeah, i agree we have played a part in increasing Global warming but Nature too has played a part. No matter what we do, we can not completely combat this problem.
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