We must stop Zika in Florida for all the right reasons.

Good Reasons

Good Lord... was that an asthma test? I had to go get my inhaler while browsing through those pics! ...

 

No matter how bad a situation can get, there will always be jerks out there trying to take advantage of those gullible and afraid:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...oducts-slammed-with-cease-and-desist-letters/

 

"He said studies have shown ultrasonic devices do not repel mosquitoes and may even attract them."

Lovely

 

"He said studies have shown ultrasonic devices do not repel mosquitoes and may even attract them."

Lovely

Mmmmhhhhh... I thought that some frequencies (ultrasonic, I think) were a deterrent to some roaches and mosquitoes... am I wrong on that?

 

Get some good coils for the buggers.

 

We have met the enemy and he is us.
-- Walt Kelly (Pogo)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comic_strip)

 

That is unlikely. HIV is a member of the retrovirus group. Zika is a flavivirus related to dengue, yellow fever, and West Nile viruses. It is not a retrovirus. There are effective vaccines for such viruses and hurdles to making a vaccine for Zika will be much smaller than for HIV (for which we do not yet have a proven vaccine).

John

Edit: Clarified that Zika is not a retrovirus.

You may be correct, return on investment. Kill a few hundred plus......... and then reap the rewards on medications to the general public. World Health Organization would be pleased with their offspring. e.g. drug companies. I see kick backs to mommy.

kv

 

You may be correct, return on investment. Kill a few hundred plus......... and then reap the rewards on medications to the general public. World Health Organization would be pleased with their offspring. e.g. drug companies. I see kick backs to mommy.

kv

I find your statement bizarre and hard to understand, but it seems you are opposed to development of a vaccine.

What is your alternative?

John

 

I find your statement bizarre and hard to understand, but it seems you are opposed to development of a vaccine.

What is your alternative?

John

Not against a Vaccine. But, against those who have power and control.

The problem is the World Health Organization itself, I don't trust an organization who benefits from dispatching controls. The UN and other such entities, I have a bit worry that they're interested in nothing more than power and control.

Getting the Vaccine is one thing, but how did it emerge and what else is coming that will threaten countries in the future. Population control and making money from it is what I'm targeting, I'm not sure this isn't man made and will spread just like other diseases which have such a huge impact on health and economies as money is spent to control the disease that seems to have came from thin air, it just suddenly appears.

If you know where this came from, I would just accept it, so help me understand. But, it seems to have just sprouted from nothing and threatens the U.S. and potentially the world.

kv

 

Re: Where did Zika come from.

There is a nice write up in Wikipedia on Zika. Apparently, the virus was first identified in 1947,but wasn't associated with human disease until 2007.

Source: Wikipedia
Zika virus is a mosquito-borneflavivirus closely related to the dengue virus. While mosquitoes are the vector, the reservoir species remains unknown, though serological evidence has been found in West African monkeys and rodents.

Microorganisms and viruses mutate. They may exist in a natural reservoir for years before causing a human disease. Sometimes the form that infects that human is particularly virulent, and we have a cluster of humans affected or even an epidemic.

HIV is another example of a disease that may have jumped species. Even the common flu (influenza A) shows high variability from time to time and may have an animal reservoir (birds). The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 was due to a particularly virulent form (H1N1).

What causes that jump or mutation is generally unknown. Even where the bug came from (i.e., natural reservoir) may be a mystery. For example, blastomycosis has been recognized since 1894 as a human disease, but the natural reservoir of its etiologic agent still has not been defined (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastomycosis). Some people blame beavers. That may be because beavers just happen to be in the wrong place at the right time.

Infectious diseases have been around for long before humans existed, and they keep changing. They will always be with us, and new ones will emerge or be newly recognized in the future. That makes the field challenging, but I can assure you that no civilian is orchestrating these infections for profit. Much more common are actions resulting from ignorance, superstition, or just plain greed and corruption that hamper attempts to control the diseases.

Can infectious diseases be manipulated for warfare? Yes. Anthrax is one example of a well-known etiologic agent that exists in both a natural and militarized version.

John

 

The smallpox virus has a long pedigree, going back several millenia, and has been completely eliminated due to the efforts of the WHO and other agencies. I had to get a vaccination for it before my first overseas trip to Switzerland (ca.1969). Don't be so quick to ascribe evil motives to global organizations without some facts in your pocket. As with overunity and some other subjects, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". Unfounded conspiracy theories offer heat, but very little light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

@killivolt Your views might have more credibility if you had a degree in Epidemiology -- Herr Doktor

 

Pretty well done for wiki, this video is interesting for those who want to just watch like my kids or family members.


Zika virus video osmosis.webm

My concern is secondary infections and infections that are now showing Antibacterial resistance or immunity.

kv

 

@killivolt Your views might have more credibility if you had a degree in Epidemiology -- Herr Doktor

Thats why in a community here it is helpful I get factual information to degrade my suspicious nature, it's true credibility is difficult when I have no foundation to prove or disprove my fears, until someone can show good evidence otherwise.

I see chemistry in 2 forms natural and un-natural and with cleaver people and systems of information you can use Misquotes as instant Injectors of a newly created or mutated disease.

I appreciate those here on the forum who participate in my education in a positive way.

Thank you,

kv

 

And speaking of a potential vaccine:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/zi...king-results-early-zika-vaccine-trial-n623016​

At least there seems to be positive progress in the works...

 

You're kidding, right? The rich in America are Democrats by a wide margin.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/why-democrats-are-becoming-the-party-of-the-1-percent

I could find a clear statistic in your reference supporting your claim. Where is it?

Note, "becoming" is used in the title but that doesn't confirm that they "have become".

 

I could find a clear statistic in your reference supporting your claim. Where is it?

Note, "becoming" is used in the title but that doesn't confirm that they "have become".

That could be because many long time "rich" repubs are fleeing their party.

 

That could be because many long time "rich" repubs are fleeing their party.

If you look at Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, George Soros, and other super rich, they are and have been Democrats for a long time -- even FDR was a Democrat. Wall Street moguls have also been Democrats . The contributions from 2008 and UBS went 90% to Democrats and 10% to Republicans, as I recall.

John

 

If you look at Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, George Soros, and other super rich, they are and have been Democrats for a long time -- even FDR was a Democrat. Wall Street moguls have also been Democrats . The contributions from 2008 and UBS went 90% to Democrats and 10% to Republicans, as I recall.

John

Look at what I quoted from gopher. Nothing was said about people already dems and being rich. It's the rich repubs that are crossing over, we're talking about, mostly due to DJT. The rich becoming dems.

 

Where does one sign up for one of these 'trust funds'? I never got mine.

Looking for a handout? So you want to become a "slave" like other people on welfare? I'm either not getting some sort of sick joke or I'm not understanding your change in attitudes towards welfare.

 

I'm either not getting some sort of sick joke or I'm not understanding your change in attitudes towards welfare.

That's because at times you pretend to be dense.