A lot of it comes down to what is required outside of the major course of study.A degree in the UK is three years and I'm of the opinion, based on the experience of my two daughters, it is quite easily possible, and cheaper to do it in two!
Oops. Originally wrote "left junior high" but because most places have "middle school" instead of "junior high" I changed it to "entered high school" and mess up. Thanks for the catch....by the time we left entered high school.
That's a new one on me, but I know what you meant. Sounds kind of like the young lady named Bright. She left one day in a relative way, and returned on the previous night.
I'd love to know how many graduate H.S. these days with a solid understanding of calculus. My middle school went as far as trigonometry, but I took it upon myself to learn integrals. Believe it or not, my 8th grade math teacher encouraged me and helped me along. Do the teachers these days take such an interest in individual promising students?Oops. Originally wrote "left junior high" but because most places have "middle school" instead of "junior high" I changed it to "entered high school" and mess up. Thanks for the catch.
Ugh - Compiler design... ugh... triple ugh... gouge my eyeballs out! I sure hope you're not teaching that 5 semester course (or I'll open mouth, insert foot).But a bigger part of it, increasingly, is that students are not entering college with the level of skill and preparation they should be and that is crippling their ability to proceed on pace to graduate in the four years that it nominally takes for a U.S.-style bachelor's degree. A significant fraction of them are entering college with math skills that were expected from my generation by the time we entered high school. Instead of telling those students to go away and attend a community college until their skills are up to par, we let them in make them take remedial classes (that don't count toward their degree) but are needed before they can even begin that 5-semester sequence for Compiler Design.
Compiler Design itself isn't a five semester course -- it's only one semester. It's the prerequisite chain that stretches back an additional four semesters.Ugh - Compiler design... ugh... triple ugh... gouge my eyeballs out! I sure hope you're not teaching that 5 semester course (or I'll open mouth, insert foot).
Regardless... why would they encourage anybody to go to community college? It's not in their interest to do so ($$$).
Compiler Design itself isn't a five semester course -- it's only one semester. It's the prerequisite chain that stretches back an additional four semesters.
I've sorta taught it. When I was at Mines they didn't have a full compiler course so the Principles of Computer Languages course had a significant amount of compiler design material in it.
I would LOVE to teach compiler design, but I doubt I will get a chance anytime soon as the person that teaches it here has no intention of letting it go.
If you get the chance, can you please eliminate all the delayms() function calls from the libraries?I would LOVE to teach compiler design...
Very true. Pell Grants can be used to pay for the remedial courses, the colleges gladly take the money. If College is "mandatory" these days, the preceding schools should be accountable for their part of the preparation so the "student" doesn't have to take remedial courses.Regardless... why would they encourage anybody to go to community college? It's not in their interest to do so ($$$).
Speaking only about the people coming straight out of high school, it's a mixed bag. You have students that really could have and would have learned had they only had the opportunity -- I've seen many of those types and they are the real losers in the current educational setting. But you also have (and have always had) the people that even when the system offered them every opportunity to learn they simply weren't interested in doing so.Very true. Pell Grants can be used to pay for the remedial courses, the colleges gladly take the money. If College is "mandatory" these days, the preceding schools should be accountable for their part of the preparation so the "student" doesn't have to take remedial courses.
Now, I have no problems with someone who was in the workforce doing remedial courses.
I know what you mean, but a Compiler course doesn't get into library design (at least not beyond the basics).If you get the chance, can you please eliminate all the delayms() function calls from the libraries?
That was painful.It appears that even remedial math is no longer required as part of a college education:
Nor will they care about the education itself. Nothing is worth more than what one is willing to pay for it.Either way, they are "entitled" to their free college and as long as someone else is forced to pay for it, they won't care (or even be curious about) how much it is costing.
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