WHY WHY WHY PP???

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Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
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I have to say I am sympathetic to @Eric007 in this way, I don‘t think everyone is suited tyo “employent”. I am glad to red tht he is starting his own business While I don’t agree with him concerning the general utility of PP, I have no reason to doubt his wn assessment that it is intolerable to him.

I had similar incompatibilities with many of the places I was an employee. I learned that I had to be able to set my own expectations, because that‘s how I am. I worked it out by either working as a freelancer in an “outsider, trusted expert role”, or engineering my position to have enough authority to (mostly) set my own rules for work.

I don’t think anyone should have to be miserable for 8 (or more) hours a day because they need a paycheck. I really hope Eric succeeds in his own business so he doesn’t have to deal with thing like this.

As an aside, I think the biggest problem with this thread is that Eric appeared to conflate his own dislike for PP with its value as a method in general, which is easy to refute and could be taken as offensive to those who do think well of it.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Don't know if you would call it "Pair Programming" but I had a partner at work. We had over a dozen discrete control systems that we were responsible for and somewhat divided them between us. An old control system was outdated (non-graphical text only system using a printer for alarms) so we looked at the application and found a control system that would meet our needs and purchased it and the hardware to interface to the existing control room instrumentation racks and field instrumentation and together we installed the application on the operating system and began integrating it. I was more adept at the graphical interfaces so began designing and compiling them while he started on the punchlist of field instruments and building the control loops for them. Unfortunately, one day he didn't show up for work. He was in the hospital for emergency gallbladder surgery. So I went to go ahead with what I was working on but when I brought the control system up it now asked for a password. I hadn't enabled the password lock as it wasn't necessary during the configuration phase so I called the hospital and talked to his wife but he was unavailable to talk to. I finally got him on the phone a couple of days later and asked him about the password lock. He said "Yes, I enabled it, but I don't remember the password!" The good news was the control software had excellent password protection. The bad news was there was no backdoor way to get around it. So, we lost 4 man weeks of configuration and compiling. Pairing is OK, but KNOW what your partner is doing and when possible, make backups...
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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Maybe it's pointless because you want him to have an argument and he said he is just venting.
He said something like...
The thread is pointless, because there is nothing any of us can do to help. He has to decide for himself that there may be certain things "up with which, he will not put". So, we heard the complaint and recommended a course of action. The rest is up to him.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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...we heard the complaint and recommended a course of action. The rest is up to him.
Interesting opinion. I think there are many other similar threads on this site that seem similar...
Well, I guess "many" is an exaggeration. A closer estimate would be "nearly every thread" would be a closer estimate.

Please point to a thread that doesn't follow your description of "pointless". Oh, and don't suddenly desire the definition of pointless needs to change - it was your definition.
 
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