Which to invest in.

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thedoc8

Joined Nov 28, 2012
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I want to start using simulator. I work for a school and can get a discount on multisum, but I see many use LTSpice. Which should I invest my learning time to. I dont care about the learning curve, don't want to waste my time. Running out of brain power.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
I want to start using simulator. I work for a school and can get a discount on multisum, but I see many use LTSpice. Which should I invest my learning time to. I dont care about the learning curve, don't want to waste my time. Running out of brain power.
I've used LTspice, it's not a big learning curve. On the Yahoo Spice Forums you can get a lot of help, they have Libraries you can download to assist you with many parts you would otherwise not have. It's free runs on Mac or PC I'm not sure if they have a flavor for Linux. There are a lot of folks who can assist when you need help here on this forum.

kv
 

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thedoc8

Joined Nov 28, 2012
162
I've used LTspice, it's not a big learning curve. On the Yahoo Spice Forums you can get a lot of help, they have Libraries you can download to assist you with many parts you would otherwise not have. It's free runs on Mac or PC I'm not sure if they have a flavor for Linux. There are a lot of folks who can assist when you need help here on this forum.

kv
The assistance is the determining factor. Thanks much.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
10,050
Good point, this is just for fun, nothing serious.
But that is usually what people new to electronics are doing too. Just makes it easier for all concerned. The members that understand the simulators are willing to help and that is great!
 

bloguetronica

Joined Apr 27, 2007
1,544
In my opinion, you should invest your time experimenting with LTspice. It is a very complete simulator, with many parts available. Of course most of them are from Linear Technology, but you can easily import foreign parts. After all, it is spice. As an alternative, you could give TINA-TI a try. Or why not, give both a try.

Anyway, there is no better simulator than a breadboard (for low frequency stuff, anyway), and sure nothing beats a real circuit. Of course, this last solution costs plenty of money should things fail, but you can always green wire and cut traces. In my long experience in electronics design, I can count the one or two times I had to use a simulator.

Kind regards, Samuel Lourenço
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
The assistance is the determining factor. Thanks much.
Ya, I got a lot of help. I just did a one off circuit diagram to prove if someone else's design would work. Since many people tried and failed, I decided to virtual the thing. Problem was no one had the chip I needed for the oscillations, it was a pretty fun circuit to play with, @SgtWookie made one for me or he had built the part earlier.

kv

Edit: Here is the plasma speaker I made once I knew it would work.

 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
Ya, I got a lot of help. I just did a one off circuit diagram to prove if someone else's design would work. Since many people tried and failed, I decided to virtual the thing. Problem was no one had the chip I needed for the oscillations, it was a pretty fun circuit to play with, @SgtWookie made one for me or he had built the part earlier.

kv

Edit: Here is the plasma speaker I made once I knew it would work.

Here are some of the files I used plus the people on ETO that assisted also.

https://www.electro-tech-online.com...e-transformer-help.138524/page-2#post-1148958
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
18,326
I work for a school and can get a discount on multisum, but I see many use LTSpice.
Why limit yourself to one? IMO, LTspice is better at analog than digital. Every digital schematic I've seen from LTspice looked retarded and most of the analog too. For a better looking schematic, I use Eagle.

Multisim is better at digital than analog. I tried the free version (MultisimBlue), but it was retarded (didn't have enough commercial components) and the "auto" router is brain dead.

For digital, I use DigitalWorks. It's free and you can create your own components. It isn't without it deficiencies, but better I prefer it over Multisim.

I use LTspice occasionally for analog simulations, but my preference is to use the simulator between my ears. I make an exception for digital because it's faster than wiring components on a breadboard.
 

danadak

Joined Mar 10, 2018
4,057
I use ADIsimPE. Analog Devices. They, having bought Linear Technology, are
trying to steer folks towards LTC.

But I found LTC is OK, thats it. Whereas probing ease in ADIsimPE seems to be
a lot easier, and graphing setup.

I use them both, LTC when I have to. I also use Circuit Maker 2000, old version,
mainly it has a fairly large legacy library which I find useful. I found it free on web,
cannot remember where.


Regards, Dana.
 

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thedoc8

Joined Nov 28, 2012
162
Thanks for the big responce, get a cup and have at it. Thanks for the links also.


I am having much fun, thanks for all your input.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
8,759
Quite a few years ago, I was in the same crossroads that you're now. I learned LTspice mainly because there's plenty of very knowledgeable people in this place that will help you with it, and because it's got my favorite price: it's free!

Also, dl324 is right about Digital Works. That software is far easier to learn than most other simulators, although it only does digital logic. And still, it's a very valuable learning resource. You can download it here ... and it's also free.

EDIT: come to think of it... it's not free... you owe me a beer... :D
 

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thedoc8

Joined Nov 28, 2012
162
Been having much fun, just stayed up all night and getting ready for round 2. I Do like the UI and you guys are right it ain't to bad to learn.
 
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