I want one of those so bad. Perfect for 8bit deving. You see their PIC32 board they just released? It looks pretty smooth. I think I like the exp16 better just because it has a real book that uses it. And it has lots of components. I'm also pretty sure I can make my own 8 bit PIM's to plug into it too. So that would give it 8bit - 32bit support. Also remember if you buy anything from MC use a @XXXX.edu address. It automatically gives you 25% off. So a PIM would be $20.It really adds up when you spend over $100. Sometimes you can buy stuff just for students too. Last year they sold tons of ICD2 lites. The only difference was the OTG programming. But they sold em for $40 each. Great deal, really wish I woulda bought 2 or 3.