I fixed the Title, you left out the word "bad"
This is my mathmatical hypotheses as to what is going on in the water for fuel technology put forth by Stanley Meyer's.h2opower,
Can you explain and show where this extra energy is coming from. Notice I did not ask how it is released. The first Law of Thermodynamics says that energy is not created or destroyed, so the energy you seek must be stored somewhere. Where is it?
Now the Gas Processor is the one that is doing all of the work towards getting the nessasary energy content, and the electron extraction circuit makes it so the unstable atoms have no free electrons to stabalize them before mixing in the combustion chamber. By focusing on oxygens wavelengths the coherent light can and will be absorbed by the oxygen atoms. The corona discharge ionizes the gases, and inbetween pulses the coherent light doesn't give the atoms a break so the energy levels don't fall back down. Any electrons nocked off will be consumed by the electron extraction circuit. A lot of this is the same as the way a lighting storm works. This MIT vidoe helps to understand the gas processor for it is for the most part the same thing, minus the coherent light, and electron extraction circuit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvXrxrqshk and this MIT video shows that water as a dielectric liquid will only take an image charge of around 20k volts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=algECMeQFrE at that voltage the water molecule will split dividing the voltage between the two new droplets. This is important in understanding how the water injectors work.Non-sequential ionization
When the fact that the electric field of light is an alternating electric field is combined with tunnel ionization, the phenomenon of non-sequential ionization emerges. An electron that tunnels out from an atom or molecule may be sent right back in by the alternating field, at which point it can either recombine with the atom or molecule and release any excess energy, or it also has the chance to further ionize the atom or molecule through high energy collisions. This additional ionization is referred to as non-sequential ionization for two reasons: one, there is no order to how the second electron is removed, and two, an atom or molecule with a +2 charge can be created straight from an atom or molecule with a neutral charge, so the integer charges are not sequential. Non-sequential ionization is often studied at lower laser-field intensities, since most ionization events are sequential when the ionization rate is high.
Now as I have said we have advanced much from the 1800s and those laws need to be changed so that they include us walking and talking, and/or life in genaral. For what good are the laws of thermodynamics if they fall apart when it comes to applying it to you or me? This water for fuel technology is tapping into the wheel work of life, and that wheel is made of water and ions. For without water/ions there is no life as we know it.Laws of thermodynamics
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The first established principle which eventually became the Second Law was formulated by Sadi Carnot during 1824. By 1860, as found in the works of those such as Rudolf Clausius and William Thomson, there were two established "principles" of thermodynamics, the first principle and the second principle. As the years passed, these principles were termed "laws." By 1873, for example, thermodynamicist Josiah Willard Gibbs, in his “Graphical Methods in the Thermodynamics of Fluids”, clearly stated that there were two absolute laws of thermodynamics, a first law and a second law.
Actually this is well understood. Our sun is the source of all energy on earth, discounting the thermal vents. Ultimately, we depend on nuclear fussion for our existance, there is no mystery here.Quick history lesson
Now as I have said we have advanced much from the 1800s and those laws need to be changed so that they include us walking and talking, and/or life in genaral. For what good are the laws of thermodynamics if they fall apart when it comes to applying it to you or me? This water for fuel technology is tapping into the wheel work of life, and that wheel is made of water and ions. For without water/ions there is no life as we know it.
That is not thermodynamics, it is just the old infinite number of monkeys restated. You may recall that the "original" statement was that, as an illustration of infinity and probability, the works of Shakespeare could be recreated completely by chance simply by situating an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters. At least one monkey would duplicate Shakespeare by purely random typing.5th Law: "An open system containing a large mixture of similar automatons, placed in contact with a non-equilibriated environment, has a finite probability of supporting the spontaneous generation and growth of self constructing machines of unlimited complexity."
Wow, I had to look that word up, "succinct." But to be quite frank I am not sure what you are asking about hidden energy being stored someplace. For me I don't see anything hidden, ionized oxygen atoms have more energy content than O2 or ground state oxygen atoms. The ionized oxygen atoms have a short life around .74 seconds, but that is plenty of time when the gas speeds inside of the intake system of a car is around 32ft/sec at idle to get the ionized oxygen atoms in the combustion chamber for the reaction before they decay back to the ground state.h2opower,
I was afraid you would answer my question the way you did. I asked you where this hidden energy was stored. You answered by explaining how you could/would release it. Can you give me a succinct answer as to where this energy is? Inquiring minds besides myself want to know.
It is going to require energy to ionize those O2 atoms.For me I don't see anything hidden, ionized oxygen atoms have more energy content than O2 or ground state oxygen atoms.
Once the electrons are "stripped" off the ionized O2 atoms, the O2 is not ionized any more. So it appears to be a exercise in ionizing and deionizing O2. I don't see any energy boost from doing that.The job of the electron extraction circuit is to consume any electrons that where stripped off so they can not stablelize the ionized atoms on their way to the combustion chamber.
Please do.I am sorry I don't seem to be able to answer your question, but I will put it on the back burner to be answered latter if I find the answer to your question, okay?
When electrons are stripped it increases the energy level of oxygen atom because they are unstable and looking to latch on to other stuff. Problem is that it takes energy to pop electrons off the oxygen. Supposedly the magic energy comes from an electron cascade effect, or from "God".h2opower,
Once the electrons are "stripped" off the ionized O2 atoms, the O2 is not ionized any more. So it appears to be a exercise in ionizing and deionizing O2. I don't see any energy boost from doing that.
Prayer would be more likely to help than using any of Meyer's devices.When electrons are stripped it increases the energy level of oxygen atom because they are unstable and looking to latch on to other stuff. Problem is that it takes energy to pop electrons off the oxygen. Supposedly the magic energy comes from an electron cascade effect, or from "God".
It is a free radical and they tend to be more.... violent, reactive, ... capable of causing disruption, and possibly some kind of dangerous release of energy like lightning. Problem is, lightning gets energy from the sun.. the wind moving the clouds (wind from sun) so as you say it takes more energy than you get. This is what people have been trying to tell h2opower for several weeks now, but he doesn't listen much since he has a lot of faith in Stan.Ionizing an atom makes it more likely to react chemically. Having removed a shell electron or three does not mean that reaction will be more energetic.
That's been my view for several years, but I still have 0.0001 percent hope.Work was done to strip off the electrons. That energy is not completely made up by the resulting reaction - Prayer would be more likely to help than using any of Meyer's devices.
The net current through the filament of a light bulb has to be the same as the net current through the wires, otherwise the charge carriers wouild bunch up, which they don't. The charge carriers lose energy when they pass through a resistor, because they transfer their energy to the ionic cores of the resistor atoms and make them vibrate faster. This raises the resistor temperature and dissipates heat as lost energy. Since voltage is energy density per charge, voltage also drops across a resistor since the same number of charge carriers has less energy after going through a resistor.
- but not that Meyer actually has discovered some previously unknown facet of chemistry and physics.However do think about it carefully in case Stan was on to something. There is 0.00001 percent hope that his circuit actually did something novel. For example was his circuit actually a way to take energy from electrons in atoms, then send those electrons back to their original positions in the atoms, electrons now drained of energy, and therefore cooling the atom down or something like that.
Can you explain what you mean by that? Do you have some conception of how one may "take energy from electrons", or "send those electrons back to their original positions in the atoms"? I find no meaning whatsoever in that thought. What is that energy, how is it liberated from any electron, how does one determine which atom of what substance to return the electron to? Why is it at all important to do so?For example was his circuit actually a way to take energy from electrons in atoms, then send those electrons back to their original positions in the atoms, electrons now drained of energy, and therefore cooling the atom down or something like that.
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The Electron Extraction Circuit removes, captures, and consumes the "dislodged" eelctrons (from the gas atoms) to cause the gas atoms to go into and reach "Critical State", forming highly energized combustiblegas atoms having missing electrons. Resistive values (R4, R6, R7) and dielectric constant of gas (Rg) and isolated ground (W) prevents "electron-flow" or "electron deflection" from occurring within the circuit during pulsing operations (at resonant frequency) and, therefore, keeps the gas atoms in critical state by not allowing electron replacement to occur or take place between the moving gas atoms. The "dislodged" negative charged electrons are "destroyed" or "consumed" in the form of heat when Amp Consuming Device (S) such as a light bulb) is positively electrically energized during alternate pulsing operations."
Quite simply, Meyer was onto greed. He knew that people wanted to be able to save money they were spending on gasoline. He cooked up a scam to part the credulous and some of their money. That is the sum and total of Meyer's contribution to human knowledge - a further proof of P. T. Barnum's observation that "there's one born every minute".
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