Sleep inducer project

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Thanks for everyone's replies, I'm surprised it's generated so much interest and I value the all feedback. I suffer from severe sleep deprivation and anxiety, have done for years. It's very unpleasant and I've tried just about everything you can think of....this is actually my last resort. I appreciate there's no proof this will have any effect but I'd like to try......tying itself may actually make me tired and I'll take that. Thanks again folks

I have a lot of trouble sleeping too. So I feel for you. But you are grasping at straws. This circuit is nonsense. You are wasting your time. No need for more anexity. ;) See a sleep specialist,
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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I appreciate that you have difficulty sleeping. But have you tried that device? You never answered my question. Does it work as advertised?

Second, such medical quackery never do what they are claimed to do in legitimate studies. The biggest risk is that a naive user will delay seeking real medical/psychological treatment and end up far worse for the delay. I hope you get the help you need. You will not get that here, even if the device enters those modes you suggest.

As for your original question, a NAND gate is only OFF when both inputs are on. Otherwise, the LED will be on.
In other words. Listen to Abe. He was very wise.

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AnalogKid

Joined Aug 1, 2013
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Back to your questions - post pictures of your assembly: high res, well lit, focused, both (all) sides. The circuit will work as described when assembled correctly.

"I ordered all the parts and dropped them into a board and soldered." What board?

I said that the circuit will work, as in oscillate and pulse an electromagnet; *not* work as in produce a useful result. Even if any part of the underlying theory were correct, you cannot simulate the lines of force of the earth's magnetic field (basically, a bar magnet 8,000 miles long) with a wire coil 1.5" long. The reason a compass works about the same everywhere on earth is that the earth's magnetic field strength varies over a relatively small range. But compared to any man-made field over thousand-mile distances, it is almost perfectly constant. Across the six foot length of a reclining human it is absolutely constant. OTOH, the field strength of your coil decreases *dramatically* over a few inches. Also, the earth's field does not pulse. Ever.

The article says to place the electromagnet under the pillow, but not how to orient it. Also, there is no explanation of why that is the best location. These is a critical omissions.

Separate from that, there is a *lot* more, and more negative, information about locating strong electromagnetic field generators near the brain, especially fields with a high field gradient (the rate at which the field decreases with distance). Without endorsing in any way the validity of the issue, this device is a terrible thing within that context.

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jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
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Back to your questions - post pictures of your assembly: high res, well lit, focused, both (all) sides. The circuit will work as described when assembled correctly.
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There is a whole thread on the topic of users coming here with a solution to a problem rather than coming with a problem. See here: https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/...of-technical-help-forums.157432/#post-1363918

Trying to prevent someone from hurting themselves by following an irrational solution to a potentially serious medical or psychiatric problem is not off topic in my view. In a sense, it is no different than if someone came here with a design for an over-unity machine that had an electronic glitch and helping them solve that glitch.

At least in my view, the latter is project is relatively harmless; whereas, the former has the real possibility of harming the person or resulting in the person harming themselves. Nevertheless, the latter project is a banned topic while some here gladly try to "fix" the former.

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redjoe100 said:
I suffer from severe sleep deprivation and anxiety, have done for years. It's very unpleasant and I've tried just about everything you can think of....this is actually my last resort.
I don't think that red flag should be ignored.
 

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redjoe100

Joined Mar 14, 2019
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Completely understand and respect the rules and ethos of this form. I'm merely trying to get a circuit working as its intended to operate, if the circuit/project does not provide the intended effect that's my problem and furthermore if I end up cooking my brain or burning a hole in the pillow I'll accept full responsibility. It's just an attempt to try something other than meds, yoga, meditation therapy, hypontherpy CBT, or snake oil :)

And don't worry, I'm not a danger to myself or anyone else, last resort as in I can't think of anything else to try.....I'm a geek, I thought some electronics might help.
 
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spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Put aside that this circuit will do nothing to help your problem. You don't have the technical knowledge to know if the circuit is even functioning / oscillating . You very well could be putting a dead circuit board under your pillow. That is not a very scientific approach to this problem.

But I guess there is just no convincing some people. :(sigh
 
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