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MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Does this motorcycle have three headlights?
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How about this one?
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How many headlights on this one?
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The last image is a dual headlight configuration, the first two images are single headlight with side spots. My bike is like the first two images. The lights are always on when riding. When low beam is selected the headlight and side spots are active. When selecting Hi Beam the Higher aimed and brighter high beam comes on and the side spots extinguish. That is by design and less knowing make and model of a bike and having a wiring drawing we have nothing. I can't see how anything can be troubleshot or even a good guess made?

Anyway while I have seen singles with side spots and seen dual headlights and seen headlights configured to behave in assorted switching sequences I a have never seen a bike with three headlights.

Ron
The bikes with the three headlights are mostly driven by the law enforcement folks in our area. Three lights all the same diameter and looking rather more like headlights than spotlights. Often there are spotlights mounted elsewhere on the rather busy bikes. Not really matching my taste in motorcycles at all.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Around here they have side spots, Red and Blue which alternate. A light show you really don't want to see in your rear view mirror. Highway patrol guys sometimes show up at bike nights with their HP bikes. They normally hand sruff out and stuff for example kick stand pads. The cop bikes have all sorts of lights. Yeah, you pretty much know one is behind you, even on a bright sunny day.

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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How about tail lights? Couldn't find a front view. Gotta be a Honda though.

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Among the first things I did was started removing lights. A bike unless dictated is a reflection of one's personal taste. I see a bike like a truck or rifle. Personally I am not into bling.

My bike pretty much as I got it.
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I didn't like the wrap around lights on the saddle bags. I also wanted the trunk and backrest. So I put those back on it. The tour package.
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Now all I need is some sunshine (actually snowed yesterday) and nice spring weather. Had it out a week ago on a nice day so I filled the tank. I also added the center stand. The original headlight was replaced with LED but I left the turn signals incandescent. Tail and brake are LED and there are a few other ruining lights on the back. When I brake the rear brake lights flash 5 times and then steady. The flashes are adjustable.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Among the first things I did was started removing lights. A bike unless dictated is a reflection of one's personal taste. I see a bike like a truck or rifle. Personally I am not into bling.

My bike pretty much as I got it.
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I didn't like the wrap around lights on the saddle bags. I also wanted the trunk and backrest. So I put those back on it. The tour package.
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Now all I need is some sunshine (actually snowed yesterday) and nice spring weather. Had it out a week ago on a nice day so I filled the tank. I also added the center stand. The original headlight was replaced with LED but I left the turn signals incandescent. Tail and brake are LED and there are a few other ruining lights on the back. When I brake the rear brake lights flash 5 times and then steady. The flashes are adjustable.
"Actually snowed yesterday?? You may live in my area. 48067?
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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"Actually snowed yesterday?? You may live in my area. 48067?
I live in 44146 the Cleveland, Ohio suburbs. Yeah, you are up in Michigan, I have a brother up there and a good lifetime friend both around Detroit, Your weather is about as lousy as mine. :) I think cabin fever is setting in. I have social distance when I am on my bike and fresh air too.

Ron
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Among the first things I did was started removing lights. A bike unless dictated is a reflection of one's personal taste. I see a bike like a truck or rifle. Personally I am not into bling.
I also wanted the trunk and backrest. So I put those back on it. The tour package.
I'm with you on the first one, a few of the chrome things on my 1989FLHTC I remade in stainless and bead blasted them. But I took the tour pack off. That one is in pieces at the moment, made a new front fender and started on a new headlight, made from a '39 Chevy pod cut in half and reshaped to have dual small sealed beams with a '59 Corvette chrome light door (head light surround). But then I had my strokes so it's been sitting since. Was also going to put the 4" shorter fork tubes and rear shocks on it too. And reshape the back fender to match the shape of the back of the hard bags better.

You have to forgive mrbill, he saw 3 round things on the cop bike and just though they were head lights, doesn't know the difference.
 

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JOEFORNS

Joined Mar 30, 2020
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Much of this depends on the bike and how it was designed to work. I see no mention of make and model of the bike? I ride a 92 Harley Electroglide. Replaced my headlight and side spots with Daymaker LED lights. The spots only are on when low beam is in use. Switching to Hi Beam disables the spots. This is done through the switching matrix and is intentional.

You added two additional headlights or you added spots? Never saw a bike with three headlights, two yes but three nope. Have you got the manual for your bike including the wiring diagram? You make no mention of the current capability of these relays? A typical 12 VDC coil automotive relay is normally a 30 amp contact relay and I doubt any lamps you could add would need 15 amps each.

I can't tell you why your bike is doing what it is doing since I know nothing about whatever you have? Really need a schematic to even guess why you are seeing what you are seeing.

Ron
Its a 1994 wide glide , here's what I did , but I want to change the two outside bulbs to high/low beams to . right now they are single beam and only connected to the high beam wire . so on low beam they don't light up (bot supposed to) when I put it on high beam they light up but center light go out , oh these are 40 amp relays too . what do I do to fix this and what do I need to do to wire all three as high low lights (with two new h/l beam bulbs for outside lights) . or is this going to put to much on my battery and drain it , so I should just go back and wire the two outside ones to the low beam wire and leave it at that
 

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MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I'm with you on the first one, a few of the chrome things on my 1989FLHTC I remade in stainless and bead blasted them. But I took the tour pack off. That one is in pieces at the moment, made a new front fender and started on a new headlight, made from a '39 Chevy pod cut in half and reshaped to have dual small sealed beams with a '59 Corvette chrome light door (head light surround). But then I had my strokes so it's been sitting since. Was also going to put the 4" shorter fork tubes and rear shocks on it too. And reshape the back fender to match the shape of the back of the hard bags better.

You have to forgive mrbill, he saw 3 round things on the cop bike and just though they were head lights, doesn't know the difference.
My street bike had no lights, no reflectors, and no chrome. It was a stealth machine, fairly invisible, so that nobody could give me any hard time. I fully knew that I alone was responsible for my safety. At the time that was my choice. No, I did not take it out in heavy traffic, just calm cruising. And that was 50 years ago.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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During the early 90s I believe most stators were about 30 amp for a given engine RPM. How much power yopu have available for lights or other accessories is a function of stator power out and how good of a battery you have.

Now if you want the side lamps to always operate H/L beam I only see a need for one relay. Wire the added lamps in parallel including H/L beam. Using a single added automotive relay Pin #85 to Ground (a good chassis ground or hard wired ground). Pin 87A (normally closed contact) to your added lamps Low Beam connection. Pin 87 to your added lamps High beam connection. Pin 30 is the power to be switched for H/L beam. You can connect that to your accessories line. Low Beam will be on anytime your accessory line is active. Pin #86 is what will switch between high and Low. You can connect it to your existing High beam wire. That's one approach.

Ron
 

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JOEFORNS

Joined Mar 30, 2020
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Much of this depends on the bike and how it was designed to work. I see no mention of make and model of the bike? I ride a 92 Harley Electroglide. Replaced my headlight and side spots with Daymaker LED lights. The spots only are on when low beam is in use. Switching to Hi Beam disables the spots. This is done through the switching matrix and is intentional.

You added two additional headlights or you added spots? Never saw a bike with three headlights, two yes but three nope. Have you got the manual for your bike including the wiring diagram? You make no mention of the current capability of these relays? A typical 12 VDC coil automotive relay is normally a 30 amp contact relay and I doubt any lamps you could add would need 15 amps each.

I can't tell you why your bike is doing what it is doing since I know nothing about whatever you have? Really need a schematic to even guess why you are seeing what you are seeing.

Ron
Here's a picture of the bike it's a 94 wide glide and here's a diagram of what I did
 

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djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Excuse me, but in your diagrams, the two outer lights aren’t connected to anything. Thus, they will never light.

Are the connections correct?
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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You can leave the bike at my house anytime.

I would do this like I suggested. There is no need for two relays being added. That's what I don't quite get, why the relays?

Ron
 
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