We're both on the same page on this one. This task also took the better part of my summer on unemployment in 1982. This was not a one or two day knock it off in a flash type project.@Papabravo You sir, are by long shot better than me at this for sure. I only wanted to imply that converting from lower to higher level is quite troublesome (the only conclusion I could get myself). I didn't assert it's not educational or practical, but in order to be able to deal with that, for sure more than basic knowledge is required.