any one had experiance of job intervew procces , where they send you a technal challenge to finish at home ?

one where they ask you to complete a project, and to supply full documentation, tests, the code, design background , et all ?
your given say 5 days to do the work ?
how long would you be prepared to work for free to produce the project ?
10 hours , 50 hours , 100 hours ?

 

any one had experiance of job intervew procces , where they send you a technal challenge to finish at home ?

one where they ask you to complete a project, and to supply full documentation, tests, the code, design background , et all ?
your given say 5 days to do the work ?
how long would you be prepared to work for free to produce the project ?
10 hours , 50 hours , 100 hours ?

I've never heard of that kind of a job interview (which is certainly not to say that it isn't a thing) and would never use it since I would have no idea who actually did the work, let alone the quality of the approach that was used. I don't know if the person spent an hour carefully considering what to do and then an hour doing it, of if they spent twenty hours trying random things until they just happen to find something that worked.

As for how much work you should put into it, I guess that depends on how much you want the job, doesn't it?

If they are asking for that much (full documentation, etc., etc.) it sounds like it would be for a fairly high level technical position, hopefully with corresponding pay level. I would also tend to suspect that they aren't going to give that kind of test to every candidate, since a fair amount of time is going to be spent evaluating the submissions, so it's likely that it's a final test for someone that is already the final (or one of a very short list) candidate. If that's the case, then the odds would be pretty high that doing a thorough job will result in an offer. In that case, if you really want the job, it might be worth spending considerable time on it (even full time or overtime). But if it were an early-on task that all hundred applicants are given, I wouldn't spend much time at all on it (unless it were my dream job).

 

I've never heard of that kind of a job interview (which is certainly not to say that it isn't a thing) and would never use it since I would have no idea who actually did the work, let alone the quality of the approach that was used. I don't know if the person spent an hour carefully considering what to do and then an hour doing it, of if they spent twenty hours trying random things until they just happen to find something that worked.

As for how much work you should put into it, I guess that depends on how much you want the job, doesn't it?

If they are asking for that much (full documentation, etc., etc.) it sounds like it would be for a fairly high level technical position, hopefully with corresponding pay level. I would also tend to suspect that they aren't going to give that kind of test to every candidate, since a fair amount of time is going to be spent evaluating the submissions, so it's likely that it's a final test for someone that is already the final (or one of a very short list) candidate. If that's the case, then the odds would be pretty high that doing a thorough job will result in an offer. In that case, if you really want the job, it might be worth spending considerable time on it (even full time or overtime). But if it were an early-on task that all hundred applicants are given, I wouldn't spend much time at all on it (unless it were my dream job).

I'd think marking is going to be fairly simple ..
Does it meet parameters set .

Assume it's for an engineering job , not snr and not management .
The USD 80 - 100k region sort of job.

What would people expect to put into this ?

 

I'd think marking is going to be fairly simple ..
Does it meet parameters set .

So they're just going to ignore the bulk of the documentation, the test code, the design background, and everything else they ask you to deliver?

Assume it's for an engineering job , not snr and not management .
The USD 80 - 100k region sort of job.

What would people expect to put into this ?

Again, depends on how much I want the job and how likely I think I am to get it if I do a good job.

If it's just a job and it's only paying $80k to $100k, then I'm not going to put in a lot of effort unless I'm getting desperate for income. There's no shortage of engineering job openings in that salary range that only involve a couple hour online or in-person interview. When I interviewed with Amazon, it was about an hour phone interview, followed by them flying my up to Seattle for an on-site interview that lasted about four hours. In the end, they said that they were impressed by my technical skills but didn't think it was a good cultural fit -- a conclusion I had come to for myself while I was there. That was for a position that, in today's dollars, would have been for $150k.

 

So they're just going to ignore the bulk of the documentation, the test code, the design background, and everything else they ask you to deliver?



Again, depends on how much I want the job and how likely I think I am to get it if I do a good job.

If it's just a job and it's only paying $80k to $100k, then I'm not going to put in a lot of effort unless I'm getting desperate for income. There's no shortage of engineering job openings in that salary range that only involve a couple hour online or in-person interview. When I interviewed with Amazon, it was about an hour phone interview, followed by them flying my up to Seattle for an on-site interview that lasted about four hours. In the end, they said that they were impressed by my technical skills but didn't think it was a good cultural fit -- a conclusion I had come to for myself while I was there. That was for a position that, in today's dollars, would have been for $150k.

Ta
Yep if one is desperate , one does desperate things. .

My view , wonder what others think ?
4 hours work, ok . But a bit cheeky
16 hours work , pushing the limits
40 hours work , are you going to pay me ?

 

any one had experiance of job intervew procces , where they send you a technal challenge to finish at home ?

one where they ask you to complete a project, and to supply full documentation, tests, the code, design background , et all ?
your given say 5 days to do the work ?
how long would you be prepared to work for free to produce the project ?
10 hours , 50 hours , 100 hours ?

Sounds like a scam to me, to be honest ... it's most probably an ill intentioned company trying to squeeze expert work in exchange for nothing. A serious company would show you what they expect from you, and what challenges you're going to face in the long run.

My only advice: Brag all you want about your past achievements (humility is a terrible sales strategy), but never ever work for free

 

My only advice: Brag all you want about your past achievements (humility is a terrible sales strategy), but never ever work for free

I don't know that I would go that far. Certainly don't work for free without considering what other forms of compensation you might be receiving (or hope to receive). I've done plenty of work for free here and there. Sometimes it's been to build some goodwill. Sometimes it's to get a chance to learn something interesting. Sometimes it's to help out a friend or a worthy organization. I've also had some big payoffs that have resulted from what was fully expected to be a couple hours of unpaid work. One resulted in a $60k contract from a major aerospace company and the other resulted in what became my PhD topic and led to well over a decade of research work with the Air Force Academy and some of the most rewarding experiences of my life.

 

I don't know that I would go that far. Certainly don't work for free without considering what other forms of compensation you might be receiving (or hope to receive). I've done plenty of work for free here and there. Sometimes it's been to build some goodwill. Sometimes it's to get a chance to learn something interesting. Sometimes it's to help out a friend or a worthy organization. I've also had some big payoffs that have resulted from what was fully expected to be a couple hours of unpaid work. One resulted in a $60k contract from a major aerospace company and the other resulted in what became my PhD topic and led to well over a decade of research work with the Air Force Academy and some of the most rewarding experiences of my life.

You're right. Context is always important.

 

I don't know that I would go that far. Certainly don't work for free without considering what other forms of compensation you might be receiving (or hope to receive). I've done plenty of work for free here and there. Sometimes it's been to build some goodwill. Sometimes it's to get a chance to learn something interesting. Sometimes it's to help out a friend or a worthy organization. I've also had some big payoffs that have resulted from what was fully expected to be a couple hours of unpaid work. One resulted in a $60k contract from a major aerospace company and the other resulted in what became my PhD topic and led to well over a decade of research work with the Air Force Academy and some of the most rewarding experiences of my life.

Done and do plenty of pro bonno work
From volunteer service , via the different forums , to helping out .
This is a very different feeling .
Which is why I asked if it's familiar to others .
Keys say ,
No way I could do the detailed work they wanted , so did background / system work .
Indicated a lot of how I'd approach the small sticky points , but left detail out.
Let's hope they hire us to fill in the gaps !
I have strong feeling though that others have said , these guys want free