IR receiver problem it will only blink

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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I suspect this is a function of the TSOP. It expects a 38kHz modulated signal not a continuous 38kHz.
Try using another '555 running much slower with its output connected to the reset pin of the transmitter '555.
 

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74266

Joined Mar 20, 2016
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Do you mean I add a 555 timer in my receiver then connect the VO of the TSOP and reset pin of the 555

also instead of TSOP1738 I use HS0038
 

AlbertHall

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The extra '555 should be in the transmitter so the 38kHz is switched on and off repeatedly.
The following is from the HS0038 datasheet:
The data signal should fullfill the following condition:
• Carrier frequency should be close to center frequency of the bandpass (e.g. 38kHz)
• Burst length should be 10 cycles/burst or longer.
• After each burst which is between 10 cycles and 70 cycles a gap time of at least 14 cycles is neccessary.
• For each burst which is longer than 1.8ms a corresponding gap time is necessary at some time in the data stream. This gap time should be at least 4 times longer than the burst.
• Up to 800 short bursts per second can be received continuously.
 

AlbertHall

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I just noticed this in the datasheet. Note that the second item here is what you are attempting.

Some examples for such disturbance signals which are suppressed by the HS0038B are:
• DC light (e.g. from tungsten bulb or sunlight)
• Continuous signal at 38kHz or at any other frequency
• Signals from fluorescent lamps with electronic ballast with high or low modulation (see Figure A or Figure B).
 

ci139

Joined Jul 11, 2016
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the schematic in this website
IR-Receiver-Circuit-Diagram.gif.png tsop48.pdf.p2.png
so the BC557 is PNP - on their circuit set up with gain of 1 Ie=Ic+Ib , Ib=Ic e.g. doubling the base current for "emitter" that is now collector - and the "collector" current is approximately that of the base current . . .
if i look the tsop38 ds i assume OUT goes high cancelling the BC557 - besides the simple supply filter R1 C1 - shown on ds is omitted on CircuitDigest's v - i would email the author of this article and asked him - why it's good that way (theres alway smth. good for smth.)
... !Google ...
1738 this time
TSOP1738 38 kHz.png
 
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74266

Joined Mar 20, 2016
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The extra '555 should be in the transmitter so the 38kHz is switched on and off repeatedly.
The following is from the HS0038 datasheet:
The data signal should fullfill the following condition:
• Carrier frequency should be close to center frequency of the bandpass (e.g. 38kHz)
• Burst length should be 10 cycles/burst or longer.
• After each burst which is between 10 cycles and 70 cycles a gap time of at least 14 cycles is neccessary.
• For each burst which is longer than 1.8ms a corresponding gap time is necessary at some time in the data stream. This gap time should be at least 4 times longer than the burst.
• Up to 800 short bursts per second can be received continuously.
Thank you can you please list the pins I should connect in the another 555 timer

so I also need to avoid other light disturbance for this?
 
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AlbertHall

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so the BC557 is PNP - on their circuit set up with gain of 1 Ie=Ic+Ib , Ib=Ic e.g. doubling the base current for emitter
if i look the tsop38 ds i assume OUT goes high cancelling the BC557
The TSOP output is active low, so the receiver circuit should use a PNP transistor, but there is an error in the circuit diagram - the base and collector are swapped.
 

AlbertHall

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The second '555 should have the same components connected to it except that C1 should be 47nF. Pin 4 of the original '555 should be disconnected from the supply and connected to the Q output of the additional '555.
 

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74266

Joined Mar 20, 2016
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The second '555 should have the same components connected to it except that C1 should be 47nF. Pin 4 of the original '555 should be disconnected from the supply and connected to the Q output of the additional '555.
what do you mean by the pin 4 of the original '555 should be disconnected from the supply and connected to the Q output of the additional '555 what will happen to the switch and IR LED
 

AlbertHall

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what do you mean by the pin 4 of the original '555 should be disconnected from the supply and connected to the Q output of the additional '555 what will happen to the switch and IR LED
The original '555 has pin 4 (reset) connected to the supply voltage. It should be disconnected from the supply and instead connected to pin 4 (output) of the new '555.

The switch and IR LED remain connected to pin 4 (the output) of the original '555.
 

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74266

Joined Mar 20, 2016
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The original '555 has pin 4 (reset) connected to the supply voltage. It should be disconnected from the supply and instead connected to pin 4 (output) of the new '555.

The switch and IR LED remain connected to pin 4 (the output) of the original '555.
thank you for this
also sorry but I made a mistake I thought you want me to disconnect the Q of the original 555 so I just need to disconnect the pin 4 original 555 from supply and connect it in the pin 4 of the new 555
 

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74266

Joined Mar 20, 2016
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Sorry, I mis-triped that. It should be:
I just need to disconnect the pin 4 original 555 from supply and connect it to pin 3 of the new 555
Okay I will try this but can I ask if it is possible for example if I only tap the tact switch of transmitter the receiver will permanently go to ON MODE and if I tap it again it will permanently go to OFF MODE our professor told us that it is possible using IC 7486 and 7474 but he won't say it how so I want to ask if this is possible?

if so can you please elaborate on how will I do it because I need this kind of function because this time he want us to put the IR receiver to any electronics and the one I want to use is RADIO but it has a condition that will only function when you use 3V only.
 

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74266

Joined Mar 20, 2016
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I finally made it work what I just did is I made my ir receiver more simple I only used TSOP and an led with a resistor
 
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