@joeyd999

Are you saying that "green" is the wrong way to go , and by extension, we should dig up all the carbon fuels we can and burn them ?

OK, I believe most to all of us agree that green is a good thing. That said because green is good does not mean setting unattainable goals or unrealistic goals. What happens all to often is people with absolutely no working knowledge of power generation decide green is great and we need green tomorrow or the day after. The technology is getting better but still has work needing to be done. Green needs to be made affordable. We all saw how Solyndra panned out and had anyone applied some engineering skills before handing them over a half billion dollars they would have known the company was doomed to fail.

Solyndra was a manufacturer of cylindrical panels of copper indium gallium selenide (CIGS) thin film solar cells based in Fremont, California. Heavily promoted as a leader in the Clean Energy sector for its unusual technology, Solyndra was not able to compete with conventional solar panel manufacturers of crystalline silicon.

Their chemistry could not compete with the competition. There should be lessons learned as to bad investments and this should have been well known before co-making a loan. . Green is good but people with no knowledge of power generation should not be setting goals. Goals need to be realistic and attainable.

Ron

 

Green is good...

No. Green is the current manifestation of the same evil that has resulted in the murder of millions of humans over the centuries.

These ideas always seem reasonable till the bodies start dropping. And even then, it's considered only a problem of implementation.

 

No. Green is the current manifestation of the same evil that has resulted in the murder of millions of humans over the centuries.

These ideas always seem reasonable till the bodies start dropping. And even then, it's considered only a problem of implementation.

i assume you are dumping your industrial waste "out back somewhere" because all Federal regulations are bad because they add cost and only help the poor people whoget their water downstream from you. Right?

I'm guessing dumping chemical waste is only bad in your mind when someone upstream from you starts dumping.

there will always be someone to pick up after you. No matter what kind of mess you leave for your children and grand children.

 

Fake green is bad because it poisons the water for useful, efficient and profitable real green energy strategies that reduce carbon emissions and global warming (yes, it's a scientific fact) There are those that use 'Green' as a marching call for their own brand of what they think is right but it's pretty obvious IMO we do need to reduce the usage of fossil fuels with actual science and practical engineering.

 

There are those that use 'Green' as a marching call for their own brand of what they think is right but it's pretty obvious IMO we do need to reduce the usage of fossil fuels with actual science and practical engineering.

Known as Green-washing

 

...but it's pretty obvious IMO we do need to reduce the usage of fossil fuels...

The actual humans who will die this winter because they cannot afford fuel will rest easy knowing it was for a good reason.

 

The actual humans who will die this winter because they cannot afford fuel will rest easy knowing it was for a good reason.

Sure, I've seen people die for less sensible reasons in my short lifetime. There's never a shortage of things that kill people.

 

Sure, I've seen people die for less sensible reasons in my short lifetime. There's never a shortage of things that kill people.

This statement is evil in so many ways -- as a response to my comment.

I hope you failed to recognize that the deaths to which I referred would not have occurred except as a result of the efforts of those with the supposed good intentions.

 

Sure, I've seen people die for less sensible reasons in my short lifetime. There's never a shortage of things that kill people.

No one need freeze in the dark or starve.

By spring the crisis in EU countries, war in Ukraine could be over if everyone in the free world was willing to conserve fuel, try not to waste anything.

But its hard to convince people of that.
Look how well we did not letting the world go to hell during the pandemic
That was worse than this.

 

This statement is evil in so many ways -- as a response to my comment.

I hope you failed to recognize that the deaths to which I referred would not have occurred except as a result of the efforts of those with the supposed good intentions.

The world is evil and I am jaded from personally seeing women and children die at the hands of a very few of those evil people for trivial things like money taken from people escaping actual genocide on boats in the high seas. I don't doubt that some small number of people will die because of X energy policy but in the long run lots more will die IMO if we pretend and do little or nothing.

 

The world is evil and I am jaded from personally seeing women and children die at the hands of a very few of those evil people for trivial things like money taken from people escaping actual genocide on boats in the high seas. I don't doubt that some small number of people will die because of X energy policy but in the long run lots more will die IMO if we pretend and do little or nothing.

Murder is evil regardless of intentions.

The victims are just as dead.

 

Didn't someone mention we were overpopulated and too comfortable? Who gets to decide all this stuff? Its like animal farm.

 

Didn't someone mention we were overpopulated and too comfortable? Who gets to decide all this stuff? Its like animal farm.

At the current birth rate, the world is likely to become underpopulated soon. Nobody left to pay for your social security.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

 

Murder is evil regardless of intentions.

The victims are just as dead.

Murder from energy policy? That's ridiculous unless you're talking about Russia who is intentionally targeting nuclear energy generation plants in Ukraine.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/11/1122245406/ukraine-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-reactor-stopped

The powering down was a precaution, as it's the safest mode for the reactors. There are still major worries the plant could be disconnected from the grid by shelling.

In that case, the plant would have to fire up emergency diesel generators to keep the reactors cool and prevent a nuclear meltdown. The company's chief said on Thursday that the plant only has diesel fuel for 10 days.

 

Murder from energy policy?

Yes.

 

At the current birth rate, the world is likely to become underpopulated soon. Nobody left to pay for your social security.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

With all the gender types that are being taught are you surprised that birthrates will plummet? Confused kids can have their gender neutralized before they know any better.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/mothe...inwashing-student-to-identify-as-transgender/

I would rather that they don't deduct for my social security and give me back my involuntary contribution while creating a scenario which will ensure social security's demise.

Did you know the new inflation act is cutting $280 BIL in medicare? Gotta get the money to go green and all the other spending somewhere I guess. I wouldn't want this on people who worked all their lives and deserve it.

 

Yes.

So are the Russians murders for their energy policy?

 

https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/mothe...inwashing-student-to-identify-as-transgender/

A crazy woman filing a lawsuit doesn't create a fact.

I would rather that they don't deduct for my social security and give me back my involuntary contribution while creating a scenario which will ensure social security's demise.

I would "rather" a lot of things happen as I wanted them to as well but nobody seems to want to do things my way. So good luck on the social security thing. Also, the more you pay in, the more you get out so don't cheat the system.

 

And with that I think it is time to close this thread.