How to make Input 220 from this primary transformer (please see picture inside post)

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PUYUP

Joined May 30, 2021
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Hello, I'm new here and confused how to make primary side accept 220 VA from the main line.
Here is the picture for the transformer.

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Pyrex

Joined Feb 16, 2022
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Hi,
as I understand, you want to power up the transformer from the 220V mains?
It's not possible, your transformer is made for 100-120V mains.
 

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PUYUP

Joined May 30, 2021
10
Hi,
as I understand, you want to power up the transformer from the 220V mains?
It's not possible, your transformer is made for 100-120V mains.
Correct sir, is possible with wiring combination like connect 100 + 120 together to accept 220v?
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Hello, I'm new here and confused how to make primary side accept 220 VA from the main line.
Here is the picture for the transformer.

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If you connect both windings in series (making sure that you get the polarity correct) then you can use it as an autotransformer, but then you will have no isolation.

PS. Get your units correct: VA is a measure of power, not voltage.
 

Pyrex

Joined Feb 16, 2022
501
Correct sir, is possible with wiring combination like connect 100 + 120 together to accept 220v?
It is possible to use as an autotransformer, unfortunately, it will be possible to take only a small power from it. If one winding is 100V 7.5A , and the second would be 120V 15A , then it would be possible to take a large power
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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It is possible to use as an autotransformer, unfortunately, it will be possible to take only a small power from it. If one winding is 100V 7.5A , and the second would be 120V 15A , then it would be possible to take a large power
Auto transformers can be deceptive. With 7.5A out, there must be 3.75A input, so 3.75A flows in the “top” half of the winding.
In the bottom half, there is 7.5A secondary current in one direction and 3.75A primary current in the other, so the NET current is only 3.75A, so , ignoring the magnetisation currents, the transformer is running at 50% load when outputting 7.5A.

If you think of it as being supplied by a 120-0-120V supply, with equal loading on each half, the top supply gives 3.75A to the output via the transformer, and the bottom half gives 3.75A which bypasses the transformer.
 

timm27

Joined Dec 11, 2020
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Hello, I'm new here and confused how to make primary side accept 220 VA from the main line.
Here is the picture for the transformer.

View attachment 329699
This is designed for a 100/120 volt mains supply, and I might guess that it was designed for a 60 Hz supply. With 220/230 volt input it is likely that the magnetic core will be driven into saturation giving rise to a very significant overcurrent, which will either blow a fuse, burn out the transformer altogether, or start a fire.

I don't recommend trying to reconfigure this as an autotransformer. You could drive the equipment with 110 volt derived from 220/230 V using an external autotransformer.
 

timm27

Joined Dec 11, 2020
27
I don't recommend trying to reconfigure this as an autotransformer because:
a/ This was not designed for this purpose,
b/ The manufacturer has not indicated the polarity/phase of the secondary winding wrt the primary.
c/ I don't know what the insulation specification is for the primary to core/frame
d/ I don't know whether the OP understands the implication of breaking the primary/secondary isolation normally afforded by the primary/secondary windings.

Potentially you are setting yourself - or a subsequent user to electrocution. Its just not worth it for an old transformer!
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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I don't recommend trying to reconfigure this as an autotransformer because:
a/ This was not designed for this purpose,
b/ The manufacturer has not indicated the polarity/phase of the secondary winding wrt the primary.
c/ I don't know what the insulation specification is for the primary to core/frame
d/ I don't know whether the OP understands the implication of breaking the primary/secondary isolation normally afforded by the primary/secondary windings.

Potentially you are setting yourself - or a subsequent user to electrocution. Its just not worth it for an old transformer!
I think d is probably the most important!
 

Ramussons

Joined May 3, 2013
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As I understand, the TS has 110 volt equipment that he wants to use in a 220 volt region. And wants to use this transformer as an auto transformer.
Post #5 gives the answer.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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The 100v and 110v are both part of the same winding as the 120v, therefore it is not possible to connect any other way.
It has to be a separate winding in order to series it .
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
22,058
The 100v and 110v are both part of the same winding as the 120v, therefore it is not possible to connect any other way.
It has to be a separate winding in order to series it .
I think the TS means to connect the 100V secondary winding in series with the 100/110/120 primary winding.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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I think the TS means to connect the 100V secondary winding in series with the 100/110/120 primary winding.
So that would give a 100V, 110V, or 120V output as an autotransformer with no isolation from the primary to the secondary.
But it may be problematic from transformer saturation if the 220V goes up to 240V as can occur in some 220V systems.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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There are not so many 220V countries. All of Europe, for instance, is 230V.
Your transformer might be rated for 60Hz, in which case it is likely to saturate on a 50Hz supply.
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
22,058
So that would give a 100V, 110V, or 120V output as an autotransformer with no isolation from the primary to the secondary.
But it may be problematic from transformer saturation if the 220V goes up to 240V as can occur in some 220V systems.
I don't think the primary has three complete windings. It seems like the primary is 120V total with two additional taps to allow the appropriate connection to get as close to 100VAC output as possible.
 
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