How do I record on Soundcard Line-In Using Circuit?

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Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
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How can I do it. suppose to be from speaker out the connect it into the mic jack on soundcard without using a microphone.

my concern is how to protect the soundcard from voltage come from speaker out

any idea?????
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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If you are talking about using a standard dynamic speaker (no additional electronics) they are pretty much a standard microphone equivalent. I'm not sure this is what your asking though. If it is you can use a plain 8Ω speaker as is.
 

retched

Joined Dec 5, 2009
5,207
I think the OP is talking about using the SPEAKER OUT jack into the LINE IN.

I think.

If you are using an amplified signal, you dont want to input it into a line in.

See if you have a LINE OUT, which will have a non-amplified signal used to get the audio to amplified and recording devices.

A bad way to do it, is to meter the speaker out, and turn the volume down until it is very low. 1/4 watt is average line wattage for signal lines. Then use software to normalize the signal.
How important is distortion?
 

Thread Starter

Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
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I wonder if the speaker output is loud the line-in of soundcard is overdrive or the recorded sound output become clipped , i thinking of using attenuator. bcoz it directly connected the speaker output (wired)to the line-in (mic input of soundcard).
 

retched

Joined Dec 5, 2009
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It may kill it. You DONT put an amped signal into a line IN.

re-read post #3, we cross-posted, any you may have missed it.
 

t06afre

Joined May 11, 2009
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On most sound cards. You can record the output directly without a mic. You must select "What U Hear" as input in the record control. If you use XP this option may hidden. Go to properties in the record control and set this option visible
 

retched

Joined Dec 5, 2009
5,207
Are you going from a record player to a PC or something like that?

You can get level converters that convert SPEAKER signals to LINE signals.

They use them to add amps to vehicles by using existing speaker wire in the trunk for the line inputs into the amp without having to run the signal wires from the head unit.
 

Thread Starter

Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
33
:) thats my concern how to make a protection on soundcard from excessive volt come from speaker-output

I thinking of put a trimmer or a series of resistor with a low resistance.

any IDEA?
 

retched

Joined Dec 5, 2009
5,207
Read post #8, it has a solution for you. (we cross posted again)

A trimmer would not be the best option because the speaker signal can change, so without a constant meter and adjustment of the trimmer, you will end up with a smoked souondcard (or motherboard)
 

Thread Starter

Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
33
Are you going from a record player to a PC or something like that?

You can get level converters that convert SPEAKER signals to LINE signals.

They use them to add amps to vehicles by using existing speaker wire in the trunk for the line inputs into the amp without having to run the signal wires from the head unit.

yup.

I have from external source
 

Thread Starter

Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
33
Read post #8, it has a solution for you. (we cross posted again)

A trimmer would not be the best option because the speaker signal can change, so without a constant meter and adjustment of the trimmer, you will end up with a smoked souondcard (or motherboard)
where i can find post #8 sorry I'm new here :)
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
11,248
An attenuator is made with two resistors.
Simply calculate the max output voltage from the speaker output, look up how much signal the mic input needs then calculate the values for the two resistors.
 

Thread Starter

Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
33
what if I create a simple amplifier using lm356 then instead of using potentiometer I use low resistance resistor, then the alternator, is this a good idea? I'd also thinking of diode protection.
 

Thread Starter

Chritoph8r

Joined Jan 19, 2010
33
by the way it is good enough that I use a series of 7.5 Ohms and .5 ohms

to speaker-out-------/\/\/\/\--------|----------/\/\/\/\/\------------- to line-in
| 7.5 ohms 0.5 ohms
-
^
|
| two diode protection
V
_
|
gnd---------------------------------------------------------------------

is this good enough?
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
11,248
Your resistor values are way too low! They will waste power and get very hot.

It seems that you did not calculate the max output voltage of the amplifier's output.

If the amplifier has a max output power of 20 RMS into 8 ohms then its max voltage is 12.65V RMS.
Your mic input might have a max allowed level of 100mV.
Then you need to attenuate the signal 200 times.

A solid state amplifier does not need a load but a vacuum tube amplifier needs its rated load all the time. So if your amplifier is solid-state and has a max output of 12.65V RMS Then use a 4.7k resistor feeding a 22 ohm resistor.
 
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