High volt generator

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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
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Hi everyone,
new to this!

I am looking for a voltage generator which could
1) provide a millisecond sequence patterns - output rhythm
2) Can provide up to 40,000 volts output

Thanks!
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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That description is totally inadequate to allow any assistance towards the design of such a device.
Consider the output current, which is not mentioned at all: at 40,000 volts, one milliamp means 40 WATTS delivered.
Then: " 1) provide a millisecond sequence patterns - output rhythm " is not even a useful description.

There is also a safety issue because 40 kilovolts would be able to overcome insulation in many instances.

So a description of the purpose and application of such a device, and a lot more details about the operation, would be needed before any effort at developing a concept would be worthwhile.
 

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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
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That description is totally inadequate to allow any assistance towards the design of such a device.
Consider the output current, which is not mentioned at all: at 40,000 volts, one milliamp means 40 WATTS delivered.
Then: " 1) provide a millisecond sequence patterns - output rhythm " is not even a useful description.

There is also a safety issue because 40 kilovolts would be able to overcome insulation in many instances.

So a description of the purpose and application of such a device, and a lot more details about the operation, would be needed before any effort at developing a concept would be worthwhile.
Sure,
its a unique device and very dangerous if not handled properly but the idea is to deliver high voltage in milliseconds in specific sequence, hence rhythm. Hope this explains. I was wondering if there such a device, like defibrillator machine
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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I don't think he is saying that his device IS a defibrillator, only that he thinks the functionality he is trying to achieve is similar to what a defibrillator does.

I suspect that that is not the case, though.

We still need more information.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Hi everyone,
new to this!

I am looking for a voltage generator which could
1) provide a millisecond sequence patterns - output rhythm
2) Can provide up to 40,000 volts output

Thanks!
Assuming that this is not intended for shocking people or animals, you need to provide quite a bit more information.

How much current does the device need to deliver (or what is the impedance of the load the device will see)?

You need to define what you mean by "a millisecond sequence patterns" a LOT better. A sketch of the waveform you are trying to achieve and what parts of it need to be controllable would go a long way.
 

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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
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Assuming that this is not intended for shocking people or animals, you need to provide quite a bit more information.

How much current does the device need to deliver (or what is the impedance of the load the device will see)?

You need to define what you mean by "a millisecond sequence patterns" a LOT better. A sketch of the waveform you are trying to achieve and what parts of it need to be controllable would go a long way.
Thank you WBahn,
Sorry, this is not my strong side. Beginner.

If the electrode could output on live tissue a voltage ranging from 10,000 to 50,000 volts. in sequence of 1 to 2 milliseconds in repetition for 1 to 2 minutes. So the live tissue will be in contact with the electrodes which will deliver the charge. We don't want to fry the tissue but we want to create a device where we could deliver such high energy to tissue.

Idea behind it, like x-ray machine where it bombards the tissue with gamma rays but it has its consequence. We want to try bombarding with high volt. The only thing that comes to our mind, is the defibrillator machine, that you can set parameters to deliver the voltage to body but its limited in its function. Buying just a power generator would not provide the sequence function.

I hope it clears up?
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Thank you ericgibbs
Correct, the intention to use this device is to shock live tissue with high voltage but on a very fast scale in give time. Hence it will not keel the live tissue.
MOD NOTE:

What does it mean to "keel" live tissue?

Assuming that this "live tissue" is part of a human or animal (and not, perhaps, some culture of some type?), this is really not an acceptable topic of discussion here. There are a lot of issues that need to be considered when delivering electrical shocks to humans or animals in order to ensure that it is safe even if everything goes wrong. You need to be talking to people that are in the business of doing this.
 

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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
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If You would explain exactly what the end result is supposed to be,
You will probably get better answers.
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Thank you LowQCab,
What we are trying to do is to perform an experience where we will be using voltage machine to deliver high voltage to live tissue and see if there are any change to the cell structure. Similar to x-ray machine where gamma rays bombard the cells but it has lots of negative effects on human in whole. Electrical rays or voltage would be a bit more human as we think in this approach but there are not many machines that can be found so far.
 

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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
22
MOD NOTE:

What does it mean to "keel" live tissue?

Assuming that this "live tissue" is part of a human or animal (and not, perhaps, some culture of some type?), this is really not an acceptable topic of discussion here. There are a lot of issues that need to be considered when delivering electrical shocks to humans or animals in order to ensure that it is safe even if everything goes wrong. You need to be talking to people that are in the business of doing this.
Excuse me, Kill live tissue. Agree and the idea of the machine is not to kill live tissue but target specific area of the live tissue that was affected or cancerous. You see, if you apply gamma rays on the live tissue, it will have many negative affects. such as complete tissue death. But if you apply voltage ray on the tissue, the cells have a buffer to resist if they are health but bad cells or cancerous cell will resinate and die. So other health tissue cells are stay intact and continue to grow while cancers die.
So we are looking for such machine.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Thank you WBahn,
Sorry, this is not my strong side. Beginner.

If the electrode could output on live tissue a voltage ranging from 10,000 to 50,000 volts. in sequence of 1 to 2 milliseconds in repetition for 1 to 2 minutes. So the live tissue will be in contact with the electrodes which will deliver the charge. We don't want to fry the tissue but we want to create a device where we could deliver such high energy to tissue.

Idea behind it, like x-ray machine where it bombards the tissue with gamma rays but it has its consequence. We want to try bombarding with high volt. The only thing that comes to our mind, is the defibrillator machine, that you can set parameters to deliver the voltage to body but its limited in its function. Buying just a power generator would not provide the sequence function.

I hope it clears up?
X-ray machines do not use gamma rays.

Voltage is NOT the same as energy. The fact that you are conflating the two is troubling given what you are wanting to do.

How much current is going to be delivered?

Again, what is this "sequence" of 1 to 2 milliseconds? Is it a simple pulse? Is it a sequence of pulses? Is it a shaped-waveform?

What does it mean to be in "repetition for 1 to 2 minutes"? Is this a single pulse lasting a millisecond or two and then nothing for a couple minutes before another single pulse? Or is it a sequence of pulses every couple milliseconds that continues for a couple minutes at a time?

Again -- a sketch would go a long way to clearing up what you are looking for.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Excuse me, Kill live tissue. Agree and the idea of the machine is not to kill live tissue but target specific area of the live tissue that was affected or cancerous. You see, if you apply gamma rays on the live tissue, it will have many negative affects. such as complete tissue death. But if you apply voltage ray on the tissue, the cells have a buffer to resist if they are health but bad cells or cancerous cell will resinate and die. So other health tissue cells are stay intact and continue to grow while cancers die.
So we are looking for such machine.
On what do you base this claim that normal cells will resist damage but that cancerous cells with somehow "resonate" and die?
 

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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
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X-ray machines do not use gamma rays.

Voltage is NOT the same as energy. The fact that you are conflating the two is troubling given what you are wanting to do.

How much current is going to be delivered?

Again, what is this "sequence" of 1 to 2 milliseconds? Is it a simple pulse? Is it a sequence of pulses? Is it a shaped-waveform?

What does it mean to be in "repetition for 1 to 2 minutes"? Is this a single pulse lasting a millisecond or two and then nothing for a couple minutes before another single pulse? Or is it a sequence of pulses every couple milliseconds that continues for a couple minutes at a time?

Again -- a sketch would go a long way to clearing up what you are looking for.
Correct, x-ray machine, fire high source of energy to radioactive material that when targeted releases high amount of particles that fly in the target direction, hence creating the x-ray image.

We are looking to deliver 10000-50,000 voltage through electrodes to live tissue
in square waves as a pulse that continues for 1-2 minutes. like stabbing affect.
Sorry no sketch.
On what bases, well there are no scientifically proof hence we are looking to prove it and we need that machine. Can you build it ?
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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It's really simple to find-out exactly what will happen .............
Go pull off the Spark-Plug-Wire, of a running Lawn-Mower, with your bare-Hand.
You won't do it twice !!!
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RBelous

Joined Mar 28, 2021
22
It's really simple to find-out exactly what will happen .............
Go pull off the Spark-Plug-Wire, of a running Lawn-Mower, with your bare-Hand.
You won't do it twice !!!
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Ha I like the idea but I will pass.
If you hit the live cell with 40000 volts in 1 millisecond, once, like a sting, the cells will live and nothing will happen to it. Unless if you keep the plug on then yes you will fry the cell
 
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