Fullerene and Similar Molecules

Brownout

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As I recall, Fullerene was named after Buckminster Fuller, who invented structures with the similar geometry as the Fullerene molecule, including the Geodesic Dome.
 

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Wendy

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True enough. If you add graphene sheets to the bucky ball (the other name for it) you can have a true monofilament, with no real maximum length defined. It would be a super strength material, possibly a super conductor.
 
True enough. If you add graphene sheets to the bucky ball (the other name for it) you can have a true monofilament, with no real maximum length defined. It would be a super strength material, possibly a super conductor.
You know...I remember reading something about this...but I can't remember where...how they were using Graphene for constructing a monofilament with crazy strength, abilities and apps...and they were using...SOMETHING...I can't remember...to be able to quickly make very long lengths of this stuff.

Now as I am sure all know how strong a Bucky Ball is...but think about a monofilament capable of towing a semi as well as cutting through steel.

Can you remember what it was they were using to help make long lengths of this?

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Wendy

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doping liquid lead (solder?) with carbon, then drawing it out slowly, where it self assembles. Soot is natures version of bucky balls, but it tends to spiral one itself, much like a conch shell. No perfection there.

We have a lot to learn about fabrication, but it is coming along. Much like aircraft, it will be a case of slow steady improvements.
 
doping liquid lead (solder?) with carbon, then drawing it out slowly, where it self assembles. Soot is natures version of bucky balls, but it tends to spiral one itself, much like a conch shell. No perfection there.

We have a lot to learn about fabrication, but it is coming along. Much like aircraft, it will be a case of slow steady improvements.
I don't think this was the method but what lengths were they able to achieve without breakage?

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Wendy

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I don't know. It has been a while since I have seen an update, much of this type of research is on the bleeding edge, and scientists hate to make claims they haven't triple checked in triplicate.

The problem with nano materials is it is hard to get samples large enough to test sometimes. Then there is the commercial factor, who gets there first is going to make gobs of cash if they are a big company. The small guys almost always get screwed out of it, and most universities hook up with a company somewhere along the way.

Using liquid metal in CO2 is the only way I have heard of to date.
 
I don't know. It has been a while since I have seen an update, much of this type of research is on the bleeding edge, and scientists hate to make claims they haven't triple checked in triplicate.

The problem with nano materials is it is hard to get samples large enough to test sometimes. Then there is the commercial factor, who gets there first is going to make gobs of cash if they are a big company. The small guys almost always get screwed out of it, and most universities hook up with a company somewhere along the way.

Using liquid metal in CO2 is the only way I have heard of to date.
Bill...since I am interested in your topic...I made a call to a friend who tends to know about cutting edge tech. and how and to what level of ability such tech...can be manufactured. This friend dedicates the majority of his day doing research and making calls to obtain such knowledge for purposes I am sure you can figure out.

I asked him about this and he told me that there are currently TWO U.S. based companies that share or jointly own a subsidiary that is currently making extremely long and extremely strong lines that are NOT USING THE SAME MATERIAL as is explained in your topic.

I asked him what the hell material was being used and he would not tell me but he DID tell me that the process and ability to manufacture such great lengths...and by lengths I had to ask..."Longer than...? Meters?"...and so on...and this game went on until the meter length I asked was 1000.

As for the process...and after thinking a great deal about his answer which at first did not make sense to me until a Light Bulb went on in my head...he mentioned Lasers and the created vacuum that follows in a Gas.

Now I think I have a pretty good idea about what he was refering to and if you do also...perhaps you could PM me with your thoughts as I don't think my friend thought I would be able to figure it out from the two key words he gave me. Which is pretty stupid for him to do considering I helped him make a lot of money by taking my advice and taking a Stock Option and Selling Short. Even though every one of the so called..."EXPERTS"...was screaming...BUY! BUY! BUY!

So if you have the time and inclination...send me a PM on your thoughts?

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GopherT

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Amazing things from nature - materials and biology.
Sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference...(take a guess before reading below)



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jpanhalt

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Amazing things from nature - materials and biology.
Sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference...(take a guess before reading below)
I assume you have been to that section of the Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh. Great museum, and I did not do that well on the nature vs. man-made challenges. John
 

GopherT

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I assume you have been to that section of the Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh. Great museum, and I did not do that well on the nature vs. man-made challenges. John
Yes, I've been there a few times. Unfortunately, it was always with school tours with my kids so my pace was not mine to control.
 
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