Guess the Postal Service should ask the Chinese to build their trucks.

 

And hire Chinese drivers while they're at it ...

 

Guess the Postal Service should ask the Chinese to build their trucks.

They could do it cheaper for sure with slave labor and with likely, as good quality. (Grumman built the old version).
https://oshkoshdefense.com/vehicles/delivery-vehicles/

 

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/14/24343497/biden-china-vehicle-software-ban-polestar-waymo
US finalizes rule to effectively ban Chinese vehicles, which could include Polestar

The Biden administration finalized a new rule that would effectively ban all Chinese vehicles from the US under the auspices of blocking the “sale or import” of connected vehicle software from “countries of concern.” The rule could have wide-ranging effects on big automakers, like Ford and GM, as well as smaller manufacturers like Polestar — and even companies that don’t produce cars, like Waymo.
The rule covers everything that connects a vehicle to the outside world, such as Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, cellular, and satellite components. It also addresses concerns that technology like cameras, sensors, and onboard computers could be exploited by foreign adversaries to collect sensitive data about US citizens and infrastructure. And it would ban China from testing its self-driving cars on US soil.

 

Why I'm opposed to letting cheap Chinese EVs into the USA.

 

They ran out of OPM.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/canoo-ev-maker-goes-bankrupt-20054204.php

 

They ran out of OPM.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/canoo-ev-maker-goes-bankrupt-20054204.php

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Electric_Company

The Lion Electric Company (in French, La Compagnie Électrique Lion), is a Canadian-based manufacturer of commercial vehicles. Currently the biggest electric vehicle manufacturer in its segment, Lion primarily produces yellow school buses, public transit buses, semi-trucks, bucket trucks, and garbage/refuse trucks.

Founded in 2011 as Lion Bus (Autobus Lion), the company is headquartered in Saint-Jérôme, Quebec.[3] The company came under insolvency proceedings in Canada in December 2024, and days later its United States subsidiary filed for bankruptcy.[4]

https://www.cleantrucking.com/batte...902/lion-electric-seeks-bankruptcy-protection

As part of its bankruptcy application, Lion is trying to receive approval for a formal sale and investment solicitation process which would allow potential financial saviors to submit proposals for a possible rescue. The application also seeks a stay of proceedings against Lion and its subsidiaries, specifically a stay of creditor claims and other debt obligations.

This does not mean Lion cannot be saved; it's also seeking approval for the appointment of a debut restructuring monitor to oversee bankruptcy proceedings for the court. Bankruptcy protection will enable Lion to continue operating its day-to-day operations under oversight.

Lion manufacturers zero-emission, battery-electric Class 6 and 8 semis and school buses. Earlier this month, it temporarily laid off more than half of its remaining workforce, quietly fired its embattled president, and halted production at its 900,000 square-foot Joliet, Il. school bus factory.

 

A new conventional full-size school bus costs around $130k to $150k. Spending a billion dollars to put 5000 electric buses is about $200k/bus (and that's just the portion contributed by the grants, which is almost certainly not the full cost).

 

A new conventional full-size school bus costs around $130k to $150k. Spending a billion dollars to put 5000 electric buses is about $200k/bus (and that's just the portion contributed by the grants, which is almost certainly not the full cost).

Your tax dollars at work!

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...of-us-rollercoaster-ev-transition/ar-AA1yILxX
BMW bets on petrol cars as it warns of US ‘rollercoaster’ EV transition

Board member Jochen Goller said the group remained optimistic about sales of petrol and plug-in hybrids in the US even if demand for EVs slowed over the next few years on the back of policy changes under the new administration.
“I think it would be naive to believe that the move towards electrification is a one-way road. It will be a rollercoaster ride,” Goller, who is in charge of customer, brands and sales, told the Financial Times at BMW’s headquarters in Munich.
“This is why we are investing in our combustion engines,” he said. “We are investing in modern plug-in hybrids. And we will continue rolling out electric cars.”

 

It's Time to End the EV Racket

...a study by the Texas Public Policy Foundation found that the average EV would cost an additional $48,698 if it weren't for government credits and subsidies. Imagine how few EVs would be sold if consumers were asked to pony up another nearly $50,000 to buy them?

 

Ford Loses Another $5.1B On EVs

But, they'll make it up on volume.

 

I don't know if this has been mentioned in the previous 213 posts, but I would be interested to know what people have to pay for public chargers in different countries.

 

Well, looks like no one will now have to complain much about any more incentives to buy or use EV's (at least in the USA).
It's now "drill baby, drill" and to heck with the (bogus) climate change.
Darwin at work.

 

Well, looks like no one will now have to complain much about any more incentives to buy or use EV's (at least in the USA).
It's now "drill baby, drill" and to heck with the (bogus) climate change.
Darwin at work.

There is a middle ground of thinking that we rushed into the EV mandate conversion without sufficient infrastructure planning and/or market driven realities while also thinking that climate change is critical to long-term environmental stability.

The true believers on both ends of the spectrum are stopping a reasoned and sustainable EV market in the US IMO.

 

It's now "drill baby, drill" and to heck with the (bogus) climate change.

Yup. We can now look forward to a future that doesn't consist mainly of deprivation and death.

Best POTUS ever.

 

....market driven realities....

.... decided the destiny of EVs over 100 years ago.

There's no such thing as unicorns.

 

.... decided the destiny of EVs over 100 years ago.

There's no such thing as unicorns.

Yes, no unicorns but they are not needed here or anywhere else. There is such things like much better technology that can totally negate the shortcomings of 100 year old electric cars. There is nothing in physics that's stopping the EV from becoming a viable replacement for ICE powered cars in some segments of our transportation needs. I just think it's wishful thinking that can happen today with market driven pricing.

 

I installed off-grid systems systems some years ago, and when LED lights first appeared I was faced with a number of clients who wanted to wire 12V throughout their home to fit the early LEDs. My advice was to defer LED lighting until bulbs were available at the local supermarket. Turns out all we have ended up with mains-powered LED lights as a norm.

As always, the market rules, and trying to buck that has always resulted in a sub-optimal result. The EV market is being perverted by government intervention, and governments always produce a sub-optimal result and in addition at huge cost.