EasyEDA: I want to design a PCB that's 100mm by 100mm (solid copper, no components, electricity, or nothin')

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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
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Anyone here familiar with EasyEDA?

I want to produce a "pcb" that is a perfect square, smooth copper both sides, no holes, no components, nothing else. Let's call it an UNB (unprinted, non-circuit, board).

The goal is to produce a "gerber" file that I can send off to a pcb fabrication house.
 

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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
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Why do you need a Gerber file if there is nothing on the board? Why not just order some copper clad board and cut it yourself? Clearly I am missing something.
Let's just imagine that I'm lazy, and want someone else to cut it for me. (Just play along, I promise I'm not trolling.)
 

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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
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Simply to show you what is available out there albeit not 10x10cm... I gave up on EasyEDA...
Thanks for your candor. I just got off a chat with JLCPCB, who acquired EasyEDA, but no longer
have a support forum. I thought they were giving it a go as a component supplier/pcb-fab/software one-stop solution, but apparently, they don't have their act together.

EasyEDA is now my 7th pcb design program that I have had to toss in the trash. In ExpressPCB, it is easy to skip schematic capture, and go straight to the PCB design, and set the board chop-cut-saw-ratline-dice-slice or whatever we're calling getting the board dimensions set to a specific size is called.

All my entire life, I start with what I have in the refrigerator, before I plan a meal. I want my PCB software to give me the option to build a circuit on a 100x100mm copper clad board, and then let me see if I can cram my circuit into that space, NASA style. Why? Because JLCPCB offers the best fab prices $ for 1000sqare mm size.
 
Is this for self use or for commercial purposes? Is privacy required?

You can try some of altium's options, some prons and cons below:

Circuit Maker (free, but no privacy concerning your designs. Everything is public)

CircuitStudio (moderate price, entry level and shitty support)

Altium Designer (really good, but expensive)
 

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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
450
Is this for self use or for commercial purposes? Is privacy required?

You can try some of altium's options, some prons and cons below:

Circuit Maker (free, but no privacy concerning your designs. Everything is public)

CircuitStudio (moderate price, entry level and shitty support)

Altium Designer (really good, but expensive)
Thank you. I will try Circuit Maker next. I don't want to give up. Electronics has a very steep learning curve, but I love it all the same. I love it.
 

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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
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Whoops, Circuit Maker is dead. Download is dead. Website non-functional.
I'll keep trying all the same, thanks.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
3,245
I'd draw 100mm x 100mm outlines, then put a filled copper area that is 100mm x 100mm. Gerber output is below.



%TF.GenerationSoftware,KiCad,Pcbnew,5.1.6-c6e7f7d~87~ubuntu18.04.1*%
%TF.CreationDate,2021-03-26T09:38:06+00:00*%
%TF.ProjectId,,58585858-5858-4585-9858-585858585858,rev?*%
%TF.SameCoordinates,Original*%
%TF.FileFunction,Copper,L2,Bot*%
%TF.FilePolarity,Positive*%
%FSLAX46Y46*%
G04 Gerber Fmt 4.6, Leading zero omitted, Abs format (unit mm)*
G04 Created by KiCad (PCBNEW 5.1.6-c6e7f7d~87~ubuntu18.04.1) date 2021-03-26 09:38:06*
%MOMM*%
%LPD*%
G01*
G04 APERTURE LIST*
%TA.AperFunction,NonConductor*%
%ADD10C,0.254000*%
%TD*%
G04 APERTURE END LIST*
D10*
G36*
X164340000Y-139340000D02*
G01*
X65660000Y-139340000D01*
X65660000Y-40660000D01*
X164340001Y-40660000D01*
X164340000Y-139340000D01*
G37*
X164340000Y-139340000D02*
X65660000Y-139340000D01*
X65660000Y-40660000D01*
X164340001Y-40660000D01*
X164340000Y-139340000D01*
M02*
 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
450
I'd draw 100mm x 100mm outlines, then put a filled copper area that is 100mm x 100mm. Gerber output is below.
Thank you Ian0, now we are getting somewhere. I thought the "gerber-file" was a single file that had all the particulars of the pcb design wrapped into it... You show a considerable string of commands, so I am understanding that the "gerber" is a file folder that has all the language describing the pcb, like a code blueprint.

So first, if I want to ignore schematic capture, I need to draw "outlines" the size of the finished pcb, then the copper is added, a kind of flood/fill command, with pads and traces if desired...
 

eetech00

Joined Jun 8, 2013
2,576
Thank you Ian0, now we are getting somewhere. I thought the "gerber-file" was a single file that had all the particulars of the pcb design wrapped into it... You show a considerable string of commands, so I am understanding that the "gerber" is a file folder that has all the language describing the pcb, like a code blueprint.

So first, if I want to ignore schematic capture, I need to draw "outlines" the size of the finished pcb, then the copper is added, a kind of flood/fill command, with pads and traces if desired...
You don't need a schematic.

Create a PCB with a board outline 100mm x 100mm
Add a copper pour area to one or both sides
Pour the copper.
Generate the gerber plots (only need top/bottom copper and board outline= 3 gerber files)
Send to fab house.

Your board will have copper planes on one (or both) sides with a miniumum border clearance as defined by manufacturer.
Clearance is usually 1.27mm-2.54mm.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
3,245
Now here's a thought - what can you do with a blank pcb?
If you have the "component ID" printed on it - it can be a fascia panel.
And is there anyone out there offering a custom fascia panel service for anywhere near the price one can get a custom pcb?
 
EasyEda reviews the files before fabrication.
If you send them a blank board, it will get flagged and very likely could be rejected. They may assume that you made a mistake.

But by all means, keep us in the loop! I would love to see their response!
 

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Hamlet

Joined Jun 10, 2015
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Now here's a thought - what can you do with a blank pcb?
If you have the "component ID" printed on it - it can be a fascia panel.
And is there anyone out there offering a custom fascia panel service for anywhere near the price one can get a custom pcb?
Exactly! Ten 100mm square boards/four bits each, plus shipping, wait three weeks. It's a great price, even for breakout boards, or a fascia panel (although a bit small). Imagine the cool artwork you could do on something a little larger, with the backside etched and illuminated...

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