# Difference between wire coil turns and 2nd coil wound on it different ways, using induction from electromagnet (3) wires total ??

#### russwr

Joined Aug 29, 2017
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What is the difference of 5 turns wire coil wound together side by side with 2nd coil 7 Red turns and loose steel core underneath, compared with same first coil with loose core, with Red wire wound 90 degrees over it on one side. ( 2nd coil has no core). This is related to capacitance type crossover leakage induction voltage transfer. Is there a DC current electromagnet induction into orange wire that has a crunch effect -a LOSS OF TRANSFER with the 90 degree wind type? Transfer is now 90 volts as measured into red wire from orange wire in photo using 90 degree wind, tested WITHOUT the Green wire 6A electromagnet on. Would it be higher if 2 wires rewound together? Or just add many more red turns as 90 degrees? There were statements that suggested the red wire was magnetic stainless steel. Further research showed that it was copper wire as plated, that just looked like SS. Do you think a magnetic steel wire as 90 degrees would allow higher induction volts , as being acted upon by the inner steel rod magnetic outreach, when electromagnet is turned on? Or just copper red wire with electromagnet being turned on to get higher Red wire voltage out?
The green wire electromagnet as 6 amps DC current flow generates magnetic field in rod core and orange wire. Would the magnetized orange wire and core STIFLE the output into red wire? Voltage transfer is from orange wire, as higher in volts. A transformer type that is pulsing, has wires all in same direction wound for step up of volts. The orange wire has too high voltage , so as only a portion is desired to leak induction. (The purpose of Red wire is to carry the same 6 amps current at joint, and pick up higher volts IN SERIES ,from the orange wire, and then as the main output.)
I need greater than the measured 90 volts transferred into red wire. Confused.

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#### DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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You've got a couple of things going on here. The windings at 90° to one-another will have very poor (ideally no) coupling. The DC component has a chance of saturating the core, but since the windings can't "see" one-another that might not make any difference.

https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier

#### atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
4,798
You've got a couple of things going on here. The windings at 90° to one-another will have very poor (ideally no) coupling. The DC component has a chance of saturating the core, but since the windings can't "see" one-another that might not make any difference.