Still ZERO evidence this was a directed Microwave energy attack.
https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/act-of-war.146797/post-1576140

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cia-s...campaign-is-behind-mysterious-havana-syndrome

The Central Intelligence Agency has rejected suspicions that a years-long string of mysterious health ailments affecting U.S. diplomatic personnel abroad is the result of a coordinated attack by a global power. In a statement quoted by The Washington Post on Thursday, a spokesman for the agency said: “We assess it is unlikely that a foreign actor, including Russia, is conducting a sustained, worldwide campaign harming U.S. personnel with a weapon or mechanism.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60068483

Some US officials have previously suggested the illness could be caused by microwave attacks, fuelling speculation the illness could be a kind of weapon from a foreign actor such as Russia. Moscow has always denied any involvement.

• ‘Havana syndrome’ and the mystery of the microwaves

But a CIA official told the BBC's US partner CBS the agency had "so far not found evidence of state-actor involvement in any incident".
Most cases could be explained by "medical conditions or environmental and technical factors, including previously undiagnosed illnesses", the official added.
The official said it was "unlikely that a foreign actor, including Russia, is conducting a sustained, worldwide campaign, harming US personnel with a weapon or mechanism."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/microwave-attacks-havana-syndrome-diplomats

A microwave attack is the “most plausible” explanation for an outbreak of mysterious injuries that dozens of US diplomats in Cuba reported three years ago, a long-awaited study released over the weekend concluded.

But scientists who collaborated on the National Academies of Sciences report, commissioned by the US State Department, say that the finding about possible microwave attacks is far from conclusive. Outside experts on microwaves and the mysterious “Havana syndrome,” meanwhile, dismissed it as implausible. One scientist dubbed it “science fiction.”
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“This is not science but science fiction,” said UCLA neurologist Robert Baloh, coauthor of Havana Syndrome: Mass Psychogenic Illness and the Real Story Behind the Embassy Mystery and Hysteria. News reports alone, not considered by the panel, paint a picture of illnesses spreading through the patients in ways that look a lot like past group psychology outbreaks, Baloh said. “There’s a lot of misunderstanding these symptoms are real, people are really injured, even among physicians,” he added.

 

So after all the investigations, all we know is what didn't cause the syndrome?

 

Actually , the report says many of the cases were previously undiagnosed medical conditions.

Bob

 

So after all the investigations, all we know is what didn't cause the syndrome?

Not much has changed from the original theory of mass psychogenic illness with testing finding previously undiagnosed medical conditions.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...mounts-mass-suggestion-caused-havana-syndrome

In 2018, after ‘attacks’ were reported by several American diplomats stationed in China, the State Department cautioned that its foreign corps should be vigilant for attacks at other locations. To date, ‘attacks’ have been reported on U.S. officials in over a dozen countries including China, Australia, the United Kingdom, Uzbekistan, Colombia, Germany, Austria, Vietnam, and near the White House. The spread of 'Havana Syndrome' around the world is unsurprising given that the symptoms are so vague and common. By warning diplomats and intelligence officers to be on the lookout for "anomalous health incidents" that may or may not be accompanied by strange sounds, the U.S. government has created a global experiment in the nocebo effect whereby negative expectations produce negative symptoms. Think of it as the opposite of the placebo effect. To complicate matters, in September, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin sent letters to nearly 2.9 million military personnel, civilian officials, and contractors, warning them to be vigilant for any unusual health incidents. It stated, in part, “Over the course of the last several years, and predominantly overseas, some DOD (Department of Defense) personnel have reported a series of sudden and troubling sensory events such as sounds, pressure, or heat concurrently or immediately preceding the sudden onset of symptoms such as headaches, pain, nausea, or disequilibrium (unsteadiness or vertigo)." That nearly 3 million people have been told to be alert for anomalous health incidents is a recipe for a forthcoming cluster of anomalous health incidents as subjects redefine a plethora of conditions under a new label, ‘Havana Syndrome.’

 

Now that I think of it... "Havana Syndrome" would be the heck of a good title and theme for a heavy metal song ...

 

I doubt CIA has the resources or knowledge to confirm or dismiss this, especially considering the fact that investigations started at least a year or two after the incidents were reported, that too in foreign countries, where the people will be very reluctant to cooperate with investigations done by a foreign agency.

Lets say the officials reported it happening in 2012 in middle eastern country, CIA cannot operate openly in middle eastern country, people in middle eastern country are unfriendly to foreign agencies, law and police will not cooperate with investigations, if CIA started investigation of 2012 incident in 2019, by that time, people in foreign countries might have moved their devices and instruments, etc. So how did CIA conclude it is not Havana Syndrome?

 

I doubt CIA has the resources or knowledge to confirm or dismiss this, especially considering the fact that investigations started at least a year or two after the incidents were reported, that too in foreign countries, where the people will be very reluctant to cooperate with investigations done by a foreign agency.

Lets say the officials reported it happening in 2012 in middle eastern country, CIA cannot operate openly in middle eastern country, people in middle eastern country are unfriendly to foreign agencies, law and police will not cooperate with investigations, if CIA started investigation of 2012 incident in 2019, by that time, people in foreign countries might have moved their devices and instruments, etc. So how did CIA conclude it is not Havana Syndrome?

The CIA just confirmed what physics said in the beginning. The directed weapons theory was science-fiction. The bumbling Russians can't even use radioactive pellets without getting caught.

https://theweek.com/foreign-affairs/1009211/a-fake-russian-ray-gun-destroyed-the-medias-bs-detector
A fake Russian ray gun destroyed the media's BS detector

But the CIA recently concluded Havana syndrome didn't come from any foreign power. This should come as no surprise. The symptoms were vague, and the proposed weapon was scientifically implausible. As Dr. Adam Gaffney argued back in November, it had all the signs of a classic "mass sociogenic illness." Importantly, this is not to say that the symptoms were fake — rather, the idea is people with ordinary ailments come to believe they're caused by some external (and often spooky) source. The resulting stress and fear causes more people to experience symptoms, and the "syndrome" spreads. Similar cases have been documented for centuries.

Now, errors are an occupational hazard in journalism, and I've made my fair share over the years. But the idea of devious Russian spies inventing James Bond-esque spy tech that somehow escaped the notice or possession of the U.S. security apparatus and the scientific establishment? That should have raised the hackles of anyone with a functioning BS detector, which, last I checked, journalists are supposed to have.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and no evidence has been offered to support the existence of this mystery weapon."

 

The bumbling Russians can't even use radioactive pellets without getting caught.

Exactly. In cases where the Russians have actually attacked people on foreign soil, we have detailed information who carried out the attack, the flights the took, and other details.

And now we are to believe they are moving a truck-sized weapon to multiple countries, attacking our people at our facilities or their homes and leaving no clues? It just isn’t plausible.

Not to mention that these people were likely carrying a device that would have detected microwaves of the power level required. I.e. their cell phones would have been destroyed.

Bob

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...versary-intelligence-review-finds/ar-AA1868bw

The mysterious ailment known as “Havana syndrome” did not result from the actions of a foreign adversary, according to an intelligence report that shatters a long-disputed theory that hundreds of U.S. personnel were targeted and sickened by a clandestine enemy wielding energy waves as a weapon.
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Seven intelligence agencies participated in the review of approximately 1,000 cases of “anomalous health incidents,” the term the government uses to describe a constellation of physical symptoms including ringing in the ears followed by pressure in the head and nausea, headaches and acute discomfort.

Five of those agencies determined it was “very unlikely” that a foreign adversary was responsible for the symptoms, either as the result of purposeful actions — such as a directed energy weapon — or as the byproduct of some other activity, including electronic surveillance that unintentionally could have made people sick, the officials said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the findings of the assessment, which had not yet been made public.

One agency, which the officials did not name, determined that it was “unlikely” that a foreign actor was at fault, a slightly less emphatic finding that did not appreciably change the consensus. One agency abstained in its conclusion regarding a foreign actor. But when asked, no agency dissented from the conclusion that a foreign actor did not cause the symptoms, one of the intelligence officials said.

One of the officials said that even in geographic locations where U.S. intelligence effectively had total ability to monitor the environment for signs of malicious interference, analysts found no evidence of an adversary targeting personnel.

“There was nothing,” the official said. This person added that there was no intelligence that foreign leaders, including in Russia, had any knowledge of or had authorized an attack on U.S. personnel that could explain the symptoms.

 

The CIA just confirmed what physics said in the beginning. The directed weapons theory was science-fiction.

I didn't see where any of these agencies used such language ("confirmed"). It was more a bunch of "it is unlikely"(s). Which is a good call on their part IMO. They can't prove it wasn't the Russians, or a ray gun, or the 2nd cousin of Santa Claus. They can't prove what it isn't except by proving what it is, and it seems like they have a pretty good theory about what it is, but also hard to conclusively prove. This will probably remain a technically "unsolved mystery" forever.

 

I didn't see where any of these agencies used such language ("confirmed"). It was more a bunch of "it is unlikely"(s). Which is a good call on their part IMO. They can't prove it wasn't the Russians, or a ray gun, or the 2nd cousin of Santa Claus. They can't prove what it isn't except by proving what it is, and it seems like they have a pretty good theory about what it is, but also hard to conclusively prove. This will probably remain a technically "unsolved mystery" forever.

Especially if we find a way to improve on the technique.

 

I didn't see where any of these agencies used such language ("confirmed"). It was more a bunch of "it is unlikely"(s). Which is a good call on their part IMO. They can't prove it wasn't the Russians, or a ray gun, or the 2nd cousin of Santa Claus. They can't prove what it isn't except by proving what it is, and it seems like they have a pretty good theory about what it is, but also hard to conclusively prove. This will probably remain a technically "unsolved mystery" forever.

This is pretty close to confirm. When they say their technical capabilities detected nothing you can be damn sure nothing was there. This had all of the signs of mass hysteria from the very beginning and no evidence has surfaced to change that assessment.

 

This is pretty close to confirm. When they say their technical capabilities detected nothing you can be damn sure nothing was there. This had all of the signs of mass hysteria from the very beginning and no evidence has surfaced to change that assessment.

They said what needed to be said for you, me, and the rest of reasonable people get the point, without writing any checks that can't be cashed, and leaving room for only the most dedicated of conspiracy theorists to read it as "they're admitting they don't know."

 

They said what needed to be said for you, me, and the rest of reasonable people get the point, without writing any checks that can't be cashed, and leaving room for only the most dedicated of conspiracy theorists to read it as "they're admitting they don't know."

It's more than the lack of any evidence as they have positive evidence of none responsibility of the major threat actors in this case.

https://abc7news.com/havana-syndrome-cia-intelligence-russia/12898963/

The findings released Wednesday by U.S. intelligence officials cast doubt on the longstanding suspicions by many people who reported cases that Russia or another country may have been running a global campaign to harass or attack Americans using some form of directed energy.

Instead, officials say, there is more evidence that foreign countries were not involved. In some cases, the U.S. detected among adversarial governments confusion about the allegations and suspicions that Havana syndrome was an American plot.

This result was known years ago.
https://www.skeptic.com/reading_roo...n-actors-bolster-role-of-psychogenic-illness/

The contents of two separate classified U.S. Government investigations into “Havana Syndrome” have recently come to light. The conclusions of an FBI probe that were leaked to The New Yorker concluded that mass psychogenic illness was the most likely explanation.12

A second report was obtained after another news outlet filed a Freedom of Information Act request. The now declassified study was issued by a panel of top scientists in their fields under the code name JASON, after a character in Greek mythology. The panel has been providing classified reports on issues of national security since 1960. It concluded that the possibility of microwave radiation was “highly unlikely” and that the mysterious sounds that accompanied many of the “attacks” were made by insects.13 The report also found that “psychogenic effects may serve to explain important components of the reported symptoms.”

This saga, which has endured for five years, can be described as a social panic. These events are as old as humanity and involve an exaggerated fear over a perceived threat to society — either real or imagined. Occasionally, they include mass psychogenic illness. The present scare combines two common themes: imaginary enemies and the fear of new technologies. While history is replete with similar panics, it is alarming that in the second decade of the 21st century in one of the most sophisticated societies on earth with an advanced legal, scientific and education system, so much false and misleading information has been perpetuated by scientists, journalists, and politicians.

 

It's amazing what hysteria can and will do...

 

https://www.vox.com/unexplainable/2...-neurologist-functional-neurological-disorder

How Havana syndrome helps us rethink the brain
A neurologist explains how its weird symptoms can manifest via a common but misunderstood class of brain ailments.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/havana-syndrome-nih-study-1.7147124
5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816532

Question Can a systematic evaluation using quantitative magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) metrics identify potential brain lesions in patients who have experienced anomalous health incidents (AHIs) compared with a well-matched control group?

Findings In this exploratory study that involved brain imaging of 81 participants who experienced AHIs and 48 matched control participants, there were no significant between-group differences in MRI measures of volume, diffusion MRI–derived metrics, or functional connectivity using functional MRI after adjustments for multiple comparisons. The MRI results were highly reproducible and stable at longitudinal follow-ups. No clear relationships between imaging and clinical variables emerged.

Meaning In this exploratory neuroimaging study, there was no significant MRI-detectable evidence of brain injury among the group of participants who experienced AHIs compared with a group of matched control participants. This finding has implications for future research efforts as well as for interventions aimed at improving clinical care for the participants who experienced AHIs.

 

Havana syndrome: Report links mystery illness to Russian intelligence unit


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They may have been targeted by Russian sonic weaponry, according to a joint investigation by The Insider, Der Spiegel and CBS's 60 Minutes.

 

Havana syndrome: Report links mystery illness to Russian intelligence unit
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Complete horse crap media/lawyer conspiracy (Starting with a conclusion and working backward) story (The HAVANA Act, which passed in 2021, gives an untaxed lump-sum payment of one years' salary to government employees with a "neurological injury") with absolutely no facts behind it. It's just as likely, using the lack of evidence presented, that they were attacked by shape-shifting Aliens.

Every investigation into factual evidence has turned up nothing. What possible reason would the US be protecting a Russian intelligence unit today? We are spending billions on defeating Russia in Ukraine during a hot war.

I'm totally not a friend of Russia but they're telling the truth for once.

In response to the media investigation, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "No one has ever published or expressed any convincing evidence of these unfounded accusations anywhere. So, all of those are nothing more than unfounded accusations."

Responding to the report, US officials told CBS News, the BBC's US partner, that they would "continue to closely examine anomalous health incidents", but repeated their position that it was "very unlikely a foreign adversary is responsible".

It's strange that Canada also had some affected (by something) when they were much more diplomatically friendly to Russia than the US in Cuba, so a targeted attack on them would be pretty weird even for Russia.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/havana-syndrome-nih-study-1.7147124
5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

After several Canadians in Cuba also reported illnesses, Global Affairs Canada also grew concerned, commissioning a clinical study by a team of multidisciplinary researchers in Halifax, affiliated with the Brain Repair Centre, Dalhousie University and the Nova Scotia Health Authority. A study posited that neurotoxic agents used in pesticide fumigation could be a factor in some of the symptoms experienced.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburne...-state-ruled-out-on-havana-syndrome-1.6769998
Energy weapon, enemy state ruled out on Havana Syndrome


The amount of energy needed to cause permanent alterations in brain patterns would be easily detected by your typical countermeasures system in a place like a typical Western Cuban embassy by normal staff operators. There are no magical, undetectable, microwave or acoustic weapon beams.