https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-09-10-25

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...and killed.

Just awful.

 

There is nothing I can say that won't get me banned for life here.

 

Never heard of the guy before but RIP.

 

I will also refrain from political commentary.

Thus, all I am going to say that murdering someone whom you disagree with, has never and will never solve anything.
Quite the contrary, a martyr has been created, and whatever ideas he/she was advocating, become fully cemented as an ideal or perhaps an ideology.
Examples include the gamut from Jesus Christ to Joan d’Arc to Tupac Amaru to MLK.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Hortman

Don´t remember her becoming a martyr. As a matter of fact I had forgotten all about her.

The whole thing makes me want to golf.

 

You are correct, not everyone becomes a martyr. For many reasons.
Like Joey mentioned, it is best to refrain from making further comments.

 

Sadly, our present toxic political climate tends to encourage the nuts on both sides of the spectrum.

 

I´m speechless ... but this guy at LinkedIn sums up my thoughts pretty well

 

Sadly, our present toxic political climate tends to encourage the nuts on both sides of the spectrum.

I don't know anything about him or what would make him a target but history says this is nothing unusual anywhere in the world. I've lived though and seen much worse in my short life.

 

Nothing unusual perhaps. But let's hope this doesn't become the new normal ...

 

Nothing unusual perhaps. But let's hope this doesn't become the new normal ...

This is the old normal.

 

No suspect or motive identified as of this morning. Looks like a rush to judgement by nearly everyone to me. Yes, it was likely political, but will everyone apologize for their rash comments if we find that it was personal? I doubt it.

 

That was very unnecessary and inappropriate indeed. How about basic decency and bowing out?

EDIT

the offensive and inconsiderate post was deleted.

 

Sadly, our present toxic political climate tends to encourage the nuts on both sides of the spectrum.

i have not seen any nuts on one of sides. it is always the same side that encourages criminal behavior, releases criminals, calls for violence, commits masacres, kills interns in the highest office, has dead bodies everywhere while calling for gun control and silencing of anyone who does not follow the narrative. that is the side that controls the mainstream media because they need coverup for their acts. this is why nobody trusts the mainstream media. CNN, MSNBS etc viewership is down to handful of people which is why independents like Charlie Kirk are walking targets - they speak truth and have way larger audience than any of the "big media" outlets.

 

i have not seen any nuts on one of sides

Really?
Then you haven't been looking.
That's a big part of our political problems.

 

lets not get off topic, keep this one for Charlie Kirk. he was a saint that was brutally murdered by a monster.

 

lets not get off topic, keep this one for Charlie Kirk. he was a saint that was brutally murdered by a monster.

A saint, never heard of the guy before he was murdered. Must be a small congregation.

 

lets not get off topic, keep this one for Charlie Kirk. he was a saint that was brutally murdered by a monster.

One person's saint is another person's Satan, and I have seen no saints on either side of the political spectrum.
I'm concerned about those who do.

 

there goes the side that cannot give a rest or respect to a murder victim