Cataracts

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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Well, I can't see the TV well enough to see the score of a sporting event. This is unacceptable! Go Patriots! Go Red Sox!
Are you still out there @djsfantasi ?

We never got an update on your Cat Surgery (success/failure, likes/dislikes, type of lens (multi-vision vs single vision), any advice)

PS, if possible, please do this without mentioning the Patriots as above.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
I can read normally and I can also see far. I'm more than satisfied with them.
I'm really interested in your lenses, I chose the Far lens they gave me a choice of a lens with concentric rings and told me that I would see Halo's at night while driving. Since my wife doesn't do well driving at night I figured that was out. Do you have any trouble driving at night or is your lens something different than what I'm talking about.

I went out shooting open site 22 semi auto long rifle last weekend, I did ok but the near site was fuzzy, I did ok with it but would like to not need my readers, so very interested.

kv
 

SLK001

Joined Nov 29, 2011
1,549
Are they true auto focusing (hard to believe)? Or are they just bifocals? I can't find anything about them online.
I'm really interested in your lenses.
They are true auto focusing lenses. Their construction allows them to use the same muscles that used to focus your natural lenses. At first, I didn't have halos, but I had "stars" when I looked at lights at night (like the old star effect filter used on cameras). It was not bad - it was about the same as when I first started wearing glasses. Over time, the vision center of your brain corrects for this - at least mine did, as I don't see them (or notice them) any more. I can still shoot both rifles (with and without scopes) and pistols with no problem seeing either the sites or the targets. Do a search for crystalens for more info on them.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
7,830
They are true auto focusing lenses. Their construction allows them to use the same muscles that used to focus your natural lenses. At first, I didn't have halos, but I had "stars" when I looked at lights at night (like the old star effect filter used on cameras). It was not bad - it was about the same as when I first started wearing glasses. Over time, the vision center of your brain corrects for this - at least mine did, as I don't see them (or notice them) any more. I can still shoot both rifles (with and without scopes) and pistols with no problem seeing either the sites or the targets. Do a search for crystalens for more info on them.

I did not think they were available yet. What was your cost?
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
They are true auto focusing lenses. Their construction allows them to use the same muscles that used to focus your natural lenses. At first, I didn't have halos, but I had "stars" when I looked at lights at night (like the old star effect filter used on cameras). It was not bad - it was about the same as when I first started wearing glasses. Over time, the vision center of your brain corrects for this - at least mine did, as I don't see them (or notice them) any more. I can still shoot both rifles (with and without scopes) and pistols with no problem seeing either the sites or the targets. Do a search for crystalens for more info on them.
Good news indeed, my vision is still 15 - 20 very good, time to go see my Optometrist. The Steroids they used to control my sinus's before my sinus surgery is what cause my Cataracts, my brother and even my dad (Now past on this year 89 years old) blessed with very good vision, it's just their ears, both needed hearing aids but I think that was because they didn't use ear protection while shooting their rifles.

kv
 
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GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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That pretty much aligns with a statement from our eye doctor - everyone will eventually get cataracts but some people don't get the surgery because they don't live long enough, learn to live with poor vision or they cannot afford it.

Assuming there are about 3.6M people turn 65 each year in the US snd a little over 3 million cataract surgeries are performed in the US every year. More than 80% are getting the surgery.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
Now that I think about it, the insurance company most likely will refuse to pay for them and would be out of pocket, no biggie I'll just get a scope for the gun and be done with it.

My readers are an issue, but unless I can prove the new lens's will benefit me overall might be less of a battle.

kv
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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My vision was still good - it was my cataracts that were the problem.

My vision bad. I wonder how this lens would work out for me??

I also have floaters pretty bad (a side effect of being so near sighted, I understand). The stars from the surgery combined with the floaters might be a bit much. ;)
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
7,830
That pretty much aligns with a statement from our eye doctor - everyone will eventually get cataracts but some people don't get the surgery because they don't live long enough, learn to live with poor vision or they cannot afford it.

Assuming there are about 3.6M people turn 65 each year in the US snd a little over 3 million cataract surgeries are performed in the US every year. More than 80% are getting the surgery.
I have early on set of cataracts . Nothing debilitating yet but it is starting. I don't know if I look forward to surgery or not.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,871
They are true auto focusing lenses. Their construction allows them to use the same muscles that used to focus your natural lenses. At first, I didn't have halos, but I had "stars" when I looked at lights at night (like the old star effect filter used on cameras). It was not bad - it was about the same as when I first started wearing glasses. Over time, the vision center of your brain corrects for this - at least mine did, as I don't see them (or notice them) any more. I can still shoot both rifles (with and without scopes) and pistols with no problem seeing either the sites or the targets. Do a search for crystalens for more info on them.
I wonder if they are an option for people that have had Lasik. When I got me cataracts done (2012 or 2013 time frame) they had a lens that was supposed to be adjustable by the eye muscles (I don't recall the name), but I wasn't a candidate for it because I had had Lasik previously. So my only options (at the time) were for single distance or to have one near and one far. It was my understanding that many people that have the near/far adapt so that they think they have good vision at nearly all distances because the brain learns to rely on the eye with the best focus, but it was also my understanding that quite a few people don't adapt and I didn't want to take the chance. So I opted to have my vision set to 18" so that I could work on a computer comfortably -- and that has worked out to very much be the case. But I need glasses for shorter or longer distances. I have progressive lenses, but I still prefer reading glasses for actual reading or really close work.

Haven't had the chance to do any scope work yet, but binoculars didn't seem to give me any problem.

I have very fast onset cataracts. I had my vision checked one year and they saw what they thought was a tiny cataracts in one eye. The next year it was the same. Two months later I could barely see in either eye.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,871
What was the cost of the surgery? I am guessing that medicare does not cover that lens?
Cost wise (for the fixed-distance option) I really couldn't complain too much. Insurance covered it all except for the $85 facility copay each time, but the EOB indicated that the total cost was a little under $1400 for each eye. If insurance commonly doesn't cover the crystalens implants, then they are possibly fairly rationally price since people will have to pay out of pocket for the difference and are therefore much more cost sensitive. On the other hand, the market is still going to be much smaller and they still have to cover the development, testing, and approval process costs. So I wouldn't be surprised to see them a couple thousand dollars more. That will probably come done pretty quickly and at some point insurance will start covering it.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,871
That pretty much aligns with a statement from our eye doctor - everyone will eventually get cataracts but some people don't get the surgery because they don't live long enough, learn to live with poor vision or they cannot afford it.

Assuming there are about 3.6M people turn 65 each year in the US snd a little over 3 million cataract surgeries are performed in the US every year. More than 80% are getting the surgery.
But don't forget that most people that have cataract surgery in one eye end up having it done for the other eye (many of them within a week), so that drops the fraction of the population that has the surgery considerably.
 
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