Can anyone make a bldc motor controller pid circuit with an inverter in psim application?

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Ahmadd0402

Joined Feb 18, 2024
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When making a bldc motor controller using psim is there someone who makes it with pid. can you show me and teach me?

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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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All Caps indicates that You are YELLING at the receiver.
It is considered to be bad manners.

A PID-Circuit is an added-on "Feedback-Circuit" which returns a Signal to,
and combines with, and therefore alters, the Demanded-Speed-Input-Signal,
before it goes to the Input of the BLDC-Motor-Driver-Circuitry.
This is to dampen Speed-Oscillations, Overshoot,
and other problems with Motor-Inertia and Load-Handling-Control.
A PID-Feedback-Circuit is not necessarily directly associated with with the BLDC-Motor-Driver-Circuitry,
it may be used on a wide-variety of different types of Motor-Drivers, not just BLDC-Controllers.

It is possible that some "high-end" BLDC-Motor-Controllers have a PID-Circuit built-in,
but I am not aware of one.
I'm sure that some large "industrial" BLDC-Motor-Controllers would include PID-Controls,
but I'm also sure that they would be extremely expensive.

When we are informed as to the details that your project entails,
and the Components that You intend to use,
maybe someone can be of some assistance to You.

Pictures, Schematic-Diagrams, and PDF-Spec-Sheets are always
very helpful in understanding what You are attempting to do.
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Thread Starter

Ahmadd0402

Joined Feb 18, 2024
7
All Caps indicates that You are YELLING at the receiver.
It is considered to be bad manners.

A PID-Circuit is an added-on "Feedback-Circuit" which returns a Signal to,
and combines with, and therefore alters, the Demanded-Speed-Input-Signal,
before it goes to the Input of the BLDC-Motor-Driver-Circuitry.
This is to dampen Speed-Oscillations, Overshoot,
and other problems with Motor-Inertia and Load-Handling-Control.
A PID-Feedback-Circuit is not necessarily directly associated with with the BLDC-Motor-Driver-Circuitry,
it may be used on a wide-variety of different types of Motor-Drivers, not just BLDC-Controllers.

It is possible that some "high-end" BLDC-Motor-Controllers have a PID-Circuit built-in,
but I am not aware of one.
I'm sure that some large "industrial" BLDC-Motor-Controllers would include PID-Controls,
but I'm also sure that they would be extremely expensive.

When we are informed as to the details that your project entails,
and the Components that You intend to use,
maybe someone can be of some assistance to You.

Pictures, Schematic-Diagrams, and PDF-Spec-Sheets are always
very helpful in understanding what You are attempting to do.
.
.
.
I apologise for the capitalisation.

do you have a contact that I can contact to get that help, I want to design the design on the PSIM application.
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
4,075
When we are informed as to the details that your project entails,
and the Components that You intend to use,
maybe someone can be of some assistance to You.

Pictures, Schematic-Diagrams, and PDF-Spec-Sheets are always
very helpful in understanding what You are attempting to do.

This is apparently not a "beginner" project, but we can only "guess" at this point.

The Driver, Circuitry, and PID Circuitry and configuration,
all must be selected, and/or, designed around the required performance expectations of the project.

There is no "Cookie-Cutter" design that just "plugs-in" to every application.

It would probably be easier if You were using a Brushed-DC-Motor,
but You have given no indication of what your requirements, or application, might be.
.
.
.
 

Thread Starter

Ahmadd0402

Joined Feb 18, 2024
7
When we are informed as to the details that your project entails,
and the Components that You intend to use,
maybe someone can be of some assistance to You.

Pictures, Schematic-Diagrams, and PDF-Spec-Sheets are always
very helpful in understanding what You are attempting to do.

This is apparently not a "beginner" project, but we can only "guess" at this point.

The Driver, Circuitry, and PID Circuitry and configuration,
all must be selected, and/or, designed around the required performance expectations of the project.

There is no "Cookie-Cutter" design that just "plugs-in" to every application.

It would probably be easier if You were using a Brushed-DC-Motor,
but You have given no indication of what your requirements, or application, might be
 

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Ahmadd0402

Joined Feb 18, 2024
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I want to make like this but the inverter only has 4 switches. and controlled with PID. I have difficulty to make PID and controller for 4 switches can you or someone help me?
 

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Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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I've been here for quite a long time and this is the first reference to PSIM that I have seen or remember. I don't think you will find many practitioners here, but you could always do a search. I decided to enter PSIM into the search and got a page of hits.

ETA: this thread was posted in 2012 and got zero replies:
PSIM simulation | All About Circuits
ETA2: this thread from 2013 has an answer I gave about using coupled inductors to make a transformer.
help needed badly for Pulse transformer for PSIM | All About Circuits
ETA3: this thread from 2009 has some examples that might work for you.
How to simulate start motor control using resistor with PSIM | All About Circuits

Most of the remaining requests in the first page of hits had 0 replies.

I would not hold my breath waiting for a reply.
 
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Danko

Joined Nov 22, 2017
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When making a bldc motor controller using psim is there someone who makes it with pid. can you show me and teach me?
It is easy. Read manual and use PSIM.
It is all about PID:
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See attached PSIM manual:
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In attachment "psim-pid" PID control realized,
using PI controller + differentiator (picture 2.3.).
 

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