Calculating cable weight

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crossj3

Joined May 10, 2018
11
Hi all

Currently installing a machine and need to know the cable weight required.

400v supply from a generator
Machine has total of 50 kw of motors on it.
The distance between the machine and power source is 35meters.

How do I calculate the cable size required?
I think it's 35mm squared cable. Am I right?
Thanks
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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Do you mean cable or wire size? And it could depend on physical lay-out. What is the normal temp in that 35 meters?

Are you sure of that 400V figure? AC generator?
 

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crossj3

Joined May 10, 2018
11
Basically looking for the wire size of each core.
Working in 20 degrees Celsius all the time .
Thanks

Do you mean cable or wire size? And it could depend on physical lay-out. What is the normal temp in that 35 meters?

Are you sure of that 400V figure? AC generator?
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
4,931
I suggest you google "conductor vs current" and look at some wire charts in your language. It will be a large size. Don't forget to look at and figure out the voltage drop for 35 meters.

You might need to buy larger size than you realize.
 

-live wire-

Joined Dec 22, 2017
959
Um... why are you working with HV and extremely high power when you don't even know how to figure out the required wire gauge? You could easily be killed by a shock or arc blast.
 

Hymie

Joined Mar 30, 2018
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Cable with a cross sectional area of 35mm˄2 (1 AWG) is adequate for a current of up to 125A.

Given the cable length, and allowing a load margin you might consider 50mm˄2 (0 AWG) cable which can handle up to 160A.
 

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crossj3

Joined May 10, 2018
11
Um... why are you working with HV and extremely high power when you don't even know how to figure out the required wire gauge? You could easily be killed by a shock or arc blast.
I don't do the wiring. I sold the machine. I just have to supply a power cable with it and want to know which one to buy. An electrician installs it.
I'm usually working with single phase and 12v.
 

-live wire-

Joined Dec 22, 2017
959
Also make sure there is good, thick, durable insulation. You don't want to go too cheap and have an arc blast or short. You will also need a lot thicker than you may think to have a safe margin. If there are any really HV transients, an arc could be established and maintained with the normal voltage. Even with good snubbers, there is always the chance a HVAC motor will create huge voltage spikes.
 

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crossj3

Joined May 10, 2018
11
What about all the termination enclosures etc?
Max.
On one end cable goes straight to generator poles.
On The other end the cable goes straight onto the main isolator switch in the machine panel. Enters the panel through a grommet and is bolted onto the isolator bars for each phase. Fused after the isolator.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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If you have an electrician installing this I would have thought he could have spec'd in the cable?
Simple grommet for 400v cable?
It has been many decades since I did this kind of work in the U.K. but things must have changed.:oops:
Max.
 
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