Only once, I talked to a reporter. She carried on for 45 minutes, then took one sentence, out of context, to prove the opposite of my position, and attributed it to me!

In specific, I said I couldn't calculate the amount of effect and she said that I said there was no effect.

So much for reporters in my book!

 

Reporters will misquote you.

In 1991-1992, a writer for an aviation magazine was doing a story on GPS happened to find Loran Station Boise City OK and stopped by to see what was going on at the other end of the spectrum.

My Petty Officer 2nd Class gave him the tour and answered his questions. My second meeting with the reporter, I simply asked if all his questions were answered and asked for a copy of the article when it was published.

Fast forward about six months. I attended the Wild Goose Association's annual meeting in Williamsburg Virginia. During the "ice breakers", some officers, a Commander and Lt Commander, started kidding me about the technical errors in that article stating, Chief, didn't your Petty Officer know that was incorrect? I simply asked them if they were "ever quoted in a publication". Their answer was NO Chief. I reminded them that "to be misquoted, you first must be quoted." The kidding stopped.

That same Petty Officer wanted to work at the same unit as that Commander, and that Commander welcomed him when I asked if there was an opening in his area.

Reporters will misquote you. That's as sure as everyday ends in "y".

 

I think it would be very easy to be in both places, if he was a runner. I think

the guy got shot, ran.. found a place to hide....passed out...and not move while

they were looking for him. Chances are he may have been found dead in boat later,

if he was so weak from loss of blood.

 

At cops’ request, Dunkin’ Donuts stays open

Law enforcement asked the chain to keep some restaurants open in locked-down communities to provide hot coffee and food to police and other emergency workers, including in Watertown, the focus of the search for the bombing suspect. Dunkin’ is providing its products to them for free.

http://www.boston.com/businessupdat...-stays-open/a981LXWXrfuZAAgnIM1YjL/story.html

 

At cops’ request, Dunkin’ Donuts stays open



http://www.boston.com/businessupdat...-stays-open/a981LXWXrfuZAAgnIM1YjL/story.html

Classic.

And a perfectly reasonable thing to do. But still a nice, stereotypical classic move.

Of course, imagine what the reaction would have been if this punk had run into one of those stores, being the only unlocked buildings, and killed an employee. But, no situation can be handled without risk. And then again, I suspect that all of those stores has a SERIOUS police presence at all times, so they were probably among the safest places in the world on that day.

 

Each sector had a command post. It was pure coincidence that it was right outside the "open" dunkin' donut shop.

j/k

 

I know that you were j/k, but if I were setting things up, I would try to place the command post nearby one of those stores. It greatly simplifies the logistics. Whenever we had a missing aircraft/hiker/hunter/skier search the Red Cross (or sometimes just the local towns people) would set up to provide food and refreshments for the people working the mission. This was almost always at mission base. That's where people are operating out of, but the mission staff and the field teams, so why put the food anyplace else? If the food can't come to the mission base (e.g., the Red Cross coming to us), then it makes sense to try to locate your mission base where the logistical support is already there (which is why our mission bases were almost always -- but not always -- at small municipal airports that had an FBO -- fixed-base operator).

 

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resou...3441988148.pdf

The Federal charge. Note the criminal definition of WMD “destructive device” is different than the military meaning of WMD.

 

Well, that makes life easier for our government. They can claim any country that owns a Claymore Mine has WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION and wait until later to say they were speaking in the criminal sense, not the military sense.

This charge is inflammatory and prejudicial.

 

Has the explosive been named? The white smoke looked like it was from black powder, which has a very distinctive rotten egg smell when burned.

 

Definition WMD, Pages 36 and 37, I'm not sure how to clarify it, confusing?

http://www.ndu.edu/press/lib/pdf/CSWMD-OccasionalPapers/CSWMD_OccationalPaper-8.pdf

 

This thread is getting political. If this continues it will be closed.

 

I found post 191 (killivolt) very informative. Apparently the ruling class has created incredible amounts of confusion about what WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION are by trying to define them as a lot of things that are not atomic bombs, bio-weapons, or poison gas. These 3 things were the focus when first I learned about WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, but, as usual, the people in charge went on an adventure with it and really poured a lot of confusion in it. The result is that WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION means nothing anything near what it used to mean, and almost means nothing at all.

 

Here locally a few months back someone had a couple of grenade simulators (essentially flashbangs used for training purposes) and where charged with possession of weapons of mass destruction because they looked like something that could be mistaken for real grenades.

The notion of WMD, as t took the place of NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) was originally centered on weapons that cause city-scale damage and/or casualties. But we are very close to a kid with an Black Cat getting charged with WMD.

 

Has the explosive been named? The white smoke looked like it was from black powder, which has a very distinctive rotten egg smell when burned.

Yes it is now known that it was indeed 'gunpowder'. The real job of protecting us from ourselves is just now getting started... Already there have been calls for some "common sense approaches" to limit the average law abiding citizens ability to buy small amounts of gunpowder.

I hope no one else here is a hunter, and a fan of loading their own ammo. It will soon be impossible to do so without filling out large amounts of paperwork and my favorite, the FEE.
Supposing of course the almighty and all knowing benevolent protectors of the blathering masses doesn't just outlaw it totally.

The founding fathers were right on target when one of them said... Those who are willing to give up there freedoms for some piece of security will get neither.

rant off/

Okay, lock it. We obviously are in need of protection from ourselves, lest someones 'feelings' get bruised or his views get challenged in a perplexing way which feels mildly irritating. Our very own benevolent overlords have decided. (It's for our own good after all.)

 

And, as usual, the people writing the laws and voting on them won't have a clue what they are talking about. They won't know the difference between black powder (which is a true explosive) and modern powder (which is not an explosive and is merely progressive burning). But, even if they did, they will still be voting out of emotion without understanding what they are doing. So imagine how bent they will get when someone points out to them that most modern pistol powders are mitroglycerin based (most rifle powders are nitrocellulose based).

And to say nothing of when someone points out to them the ready-to-go explosive potential of a large firework mortor round (many of which are handmade).

I was reloading ammunition back when I was in 7th grade. Not only could we not have afforded to do as much shooting as we did back then (I put over 1000 rounds through jjust one rifle that summer) since our reloads saved between 50% and 80% over the cost of factory loads, but my handloads were far, far more accurate than factory loads. I had a hard time keeping factory loads on paper at 300yds but could generally group my handloads in a 3" circle. I pulled a whole box of factory loads one time and the min-max spread on the powder charge was 2.5 grains while the min-max spread on my total cartridge weight of my reloads was under 0.3 grains with almost all of that being differences in the weight of the used cases (my powder loads were always within 0.1grains).

Today I can't afford to relaod and for many rounds it costs me more to reload than it costs for factory ammo. Fortunately, the quality control of factory rounds has improved enormously and is in shouting distance of my handloads. But, of course, even my best handloads have never come close to being of the quality needed for 1000 yards and up match shooting.

But I digress.

I fully expect to see kneejerk legislation come out of this. Hopefully what will come out of it is a bunch of meaningless laws that have no effect. It turns out that many of these kinds of laws that are on our books are the result of efforts to blunt the kneejerk laws by reaching a "compromise" that has all the right buzzwords but actually results in unenforceable laws. Sad, but I guess better than the alternative when the the emotional tide is too strong to just defeat the kneejerks outright.

 

I told my oldest grandson (21) not to buy his mother a new pressure cooker for her up coming birthday. They will be next.

 

I was actually looking for a pressure cooker a while back. I don't know what happened to the one we had when I was growing up (actually, I think I do recall and, if correct, it was a royal shame). Pressure cookers do such a fabulous job on turning tough lower cuts of meat into very tasty, tender meals.

Better get a couple while I can. Wonder what would happen if I were to try to buy five of them at the same time.... maybe I don't want to find out.

 

My wife was bugging me to get one last weekend. She doesn't even cook? I told her, I just need a really good convection oven, they setup on the counter top. Plug'em in and they do many more things than a pressure cooker, same time or less.

I guess if you want to do some "canning" or "beans" well that's different, and yes they turn the tuff meats into yummy meats. If you have a gas stove, you don't need electricity.

 

Please don't start with the conspiracy theories. I already had to deal with some of those today. They are extremely disrespectful to those who were injured or killed, and they have no place in this discussion.

There is definitely a conspiracy, and it's no theory.

Whether you choose to see it or not.

Right now, there is another false flag, no-fly zone, over NJ.

For a guy with a machete.

Gotta make space for the Drones and copters, ya know.

If people are genuinely going to act/feign with sympathy, where is it for the hundreds killed by drones every month?
Where is all this grief for the people killed on the job, or in hospitals, in auto accidents? Where is the sympathy for my own family members who died? Are they not TV worthy?

Are those strangers not worthy of your grief?

Death does not care for just a few people, he takes care of everyone.

You lockdown citizens in their own homes, because 3 people died?

In America?

The poor children growing up today with parents, who teach them it is OK to be a little government, obeying, useless eater, robot; is who you owe sympathy for.

You still going to say this when your own family is in/under Martial Law? Maybe they will be sweet enough to bring them milk?

The conspiracy, is being rubbed in your face everyday. Ever heard of the TSA? Or, other alphabet agencies?

Don't fall for it.
Don't play their game.