8pm, hot zone in Watertown. What seems like thousands of police surrounding a thermal image in a boat parked in a driveway. Explosions and gun shots. He might already be dead.

 

8pm, hot zone in Watertown. What seems like thousands of police surrounding a thermal image in a boat parked in a driveway. Explosions and gun shots. He might already be dead.

The police say he is still alive, for sure. They are throwing flash-bangs towards the boat in an attempt to get him to leave the boat, but it probably won't do any good. He has nowhere to go though. He is probably only still there because he wants to take others with him when he dies. That's why the police are holding back.

 

Bomber is NOW IN CUSTODY!!!

 

Bomber is NOW IN CUSTODY!!!

:Removed: They did fire on the suspect.


Edit: The reporters called the father on the phone to let him know he's alive, the father wept.
When asked what he would tell his son. He said, tell the police everything and don't leave anything out.

I hope he tells them everything.

 

There may be a chance we will learn, how this all began.

That would be nice. I am curious myself. I have to be careful not completely lose myself in the web of story that the new outlets weave. That being said, according what those outlets have shown us, he doesn't seem to fit the profile of a would-be terrorist to extent that he would become an actual terrorist. I am inclined to think that there may be a whole lot more to this story that we don't know. I'm not going soft here; I think he is guilty, if nothing else by association. I just want to know the full story,

 

I have to be careful not completely lose myself in the web of story that the new outlets weave.

That's what I did. I completely thought there would be no "Barney Fifes" that just had to shoot their new gun.....

They say one of the officers may have been grazed. Maybe it was warranted?

I hope he will survive. And tell his story.

 

What's the profile of a would be terrorists? A broken country, an oppressive regime, high youth unemployment religious fervor, paranoia about foreign governments? We might find about all these ingredients, considering where the young men hailed from.

 

I am inclined to think that there may be a whole lot more to this story that we don't know. I'm not going soft here; I think he is guilty, if nothing else by association. I just want to know the full story,

While I hope we find out the "full story", whatever that may be, I'm not going to be too surprised at most anything it turns out to be. They may have had some political motive or they may not. They may just be two whacked nutjobs. Several years ago we had a case where two boys and a girl, all about thirteen years old, that had been best friends for years went somewhere one day and the two boys killed the girl. Why? Was is a love-triangle? No. Had she said or done something that angered them? No. The reason was simply that they wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone and she happened to be handy. These two may have done all this just to see what it felt like. Someone that disturbed might be the proverbial one-in-a-million, but that means we have several hundred of them running around just in our own country.

 

Please don't delve into political talk and speculation. Mourning the dead is respectable but targeting cultural and ethnic groups is another matter.

 

The words coming from the owner of the boat was, the boat is a loss from all the bullet holes.

I will be surprised if he will survive to tell anything. It's a complete tragedy, no matter what anyone says.

 

The fallout of social turmoil is sometimes terrorism. But is is also these sort of fringe acts, acting alone or at least outside of any political or social movement. My guess is, looking at these kids, they are of the latter order. They were uncommonly amateurish, and appear to be acting on their own accord. However, I do think they might be a fringe of a larger movement, considering all the facts. Not to try to peer too far into the future, this has the hallmarks of an isolated case of a fringe sect. Odd, the US hasn't been attacked in over a decade, and these two kids somehow were able to cause such havoc.

 

I will be surprised if he will survive to tell anything. It's a complete tragedy, no matter what anyone says.

This guy will be on life support if necessary to get his story. I'm not sure of the extent of his injuries, but he survived for 20 hours after being wounded, and before capture.

 

but he survived for 20 hours after being wounded, and before capture.

Right, I thought so too, but when owner said they riddled the boat. I figure he's pretty shot up.

For the Victims, maybe they would get some knowledge that will help them emotionally rehabilitate, rather than nothing out of it, just pain and suffering coupled with permanent debilitation.

Leaving them to wonder why it happened.

 

we earthquake today, April is not peace

 

we earthquake today, April is not peace

Just a thought.......

Instead of talking about it hear, make a new Thread. Say where it is? give some detail too, if you can.

 

For the Victims, maybe they would get some knowledge that will help them emotionally rehabilitate, rather than nothing out of it, just pain and suffering coupled with permanent debilitation.

That's a great point. Also, intelligence about possible networks they might have worked with. Anyone else involved should also be brought to justice.

 

That's a great point. Also, intelligence about possible networks they might have worked with. Anyone else involved should also be brought to justice.

I kept watch the news for ~30 min after they caught the younger brother. They said that there was a 3rd arrest made in another city south of watertown, connected with the bombing. The reporter made the comment "this is far from over." I don't know what that was all about...

 

Strantor,

Someone make a comment on the news last night about a sort of loosely affiliated domestic terrorism network that trains people in bomb making and such. Some of this is known to law enforcement, but information is disjointed. Interrogation of the suspect might help to track down anyone else who was involved.

 

As I say, I definitely understand.

I guess, for me, the test for whether I will give them a pass is if they are truly consistent in their positions. For instance, if they were in a control studio talking to someone via radio that was out filming something and this happened and they then saw THEIR daughter dying on the monitor, would they tell the photographer to keep filming or would they tell the photographer to set the camera down and save his daughter?

I wouldn't use that as a test. Family trumps professionalism, IMO. I would look at each case separately. I would look at the usefulness of the video, what other people were available to aid, etc. I think about the war correspondents, and how they did their jobs without getting involved in the conflict and such. I wouldn't expect them to film their family if they are in imminent danger, although that was their profession.

 

I wouldn't use that as a test. Family trumps professionalism, IMO. I would look at each case separately. I would look at the usefulness of the video, what other people were available to aid, etc. I think about the war correspondents, and how they did their jobs without getting involved in the conflict and such. I wouldn't expect them to film their family if they are in imminent danger, although that was their profession.

If your professionalism entitles you to let other people's children die, then it should require that you let your own as well.

But, okay, then ease it back a bit and see if they would be angry or critical of another photographer that let their daughter die in order to keep filming. How would they respond to that person if they showed up to photograph the funeral as a follow on to their previous coverage?

My point is that if they believe that they should be given a pass when their actions impact others in a very negative way, then they should be willing and prepared to give others a pass when their similar actions hit closer to home. There have been numerous times when a father has sent a son to all-but-certain death in numerous fields from military to fire departments to mine rescue to you name it. They position was that if I am in a position to send another man's son to die, then I better be willing to send my own. And, yes, there have been times when someone in that position chose someone else instead solely so they didn't have to send their own son and those people lose my respect and I believe they shouldn't be in that position.