Nice demo of the abort escape system working.

 

Nice demo of the abort escape system working.

I understand it was not intended to be tested,
but very impressive acceleration ,

Love the landing, at just what height do the retros fire ? looked very close to the ground,

 

I understand it was not intended to be tested,
but very impressive acceleration ,

Love the landing, at just what height do the retros fire ? looked very close to the ground,

Maybe I missed it (need to look at other landings to compare) but I don't see much retro firing on that landing. It looked pretty hard.

Looking at another landing maybe it was dust from the rockets firing.

 

It just struck me that you could call the Saturn IV a “retro rocket”.

A shame we have nothing even close to it today.

 

It just struck me that you could call the Saturn IV a “retro rocket”.

A shame we have nothing even close to it today.

I've never heard of a Saturn IV. If you meant Saturn V, it was the most powerful of yester-year (Apollo era). I'm also not sure what you mean by "nothing even close". I'd say the Artemis engines are "close". Unless you are playing by Price Is Right rules - and disqualifying Artemis because it exceeds the Saturn V thrust. I still don't understand what is a shame.

Power (thrust): Saturn V 7.5 million pounds; SLS (Artemis) 8.8 million pounds

 

 

I've never heard of a Saturn IV. If you meant Saturn V, it was the most powerful of yester-year (Apollo era). I'm also not sure what you mean by "nothing even close". I'd say the aremis engines are "close". Unless you are playing by Price Is Right rules - and disqualifying Artemis because it exceeds the Saturn V thrust. I still don't understand what is a shame.

Power (thrust): Saturn V 7.5 million pounds; SLS (Artemis) 8.8 million pounds

The IV was a typo.

The shame is that we had a moon-capable launch vehicle and it was not maintained. The shame is the abandonment of the Apollo program instead of the evolution of it.

 

The IV was a typo.

The shame is that we had a moon-capable launch vehicle and it was not maintained. The shame is the abandonment of the Apollo program instead of the evolution of it.

What needed to get done on the moon? It's not zero gravity like the ISS. It's further way than the ISS. Any rescue mission would be much more difficult than saving someone from the ISS by having to land, gather victims and and take off for home. I just don't see a shame in not going back to the moon for the past 50 years, and therefore, no need for a Saturn V rocket. Note, the capital "I" is far way from the "V" on a standard QWERTY keyboard. Which keyboard do you use?

 

What needed to get done on the moon? It's not zero gravity like the ISS. It's further way than the ISS. Any rescue mission would be much more difficult than saving someone from the ISS by having to land, gather victims and and take off for home. I just don't see a shame in not going back to the moon for the past 50 years, and therefore, no need for a Saturn V rocket. Note, the capital "I" is far way from the "V" on a standard QWERTY keyboard. Which keyboard do you use?

You certainly have your opinion, and I find it about as useless as your pathetic attempts at left-handed insults.

There is really no point in replying to any more of my posts. You responses are only meant to inflate your own ego, and they add nothing to the thread, and I sure as hell have no interest in talking about anything with you. You only answer my posts hoping to make yourself look clever, it doesn't work, it just makes you look small.

How about you just pretend I don't exist and I will do my best to do the same for you.

 

 

Just shoed space is dangerous and hard and how human systems need to be engineered safe with means that of escape.
I wonder , if this was manned type launch , would an escape tower have saved the crew?
Id imagine the launch system is a write off

 

Can someone remined me when we're going to mars?

 

The interesting question. I think , is when are we comming back from mars ?
Hope we do better bio security than the second hand metal caravan used on Apollo !
I'm guessing the long trip back will give plenty of time for the astronauts to be the guinea pigs !

 

Just shoed space is dangerous and hard and how human systems need to be engineered safe with means that of escape.
I wonder , if this was manned type launch , would an escape tower have saved the crew?

Quite possibly.

The explosion of the second Soviet N-1 just as it cleared the tower was one of the largest accidental manmade explosion in history, completely destroying the launch complex (even though it is estimated that only about 15% of the fuel detonated). Some sources claim that it's yield was roughly equivalent to the Hiroshima bomb, but most put it at an order of magnitude less than that, placing it comparable to the ammonium nitrate explosion in Beirut back in 2020. But the launch escape system worked as designed and brought the capsule down safely a bit over a mile away.

 

Its just a matter of time before astronauts are killed by either Musk's or Bezos' obsession with space, with the money those guys have, playing with rockets is not what I's be spending it on.

 

Its just a matter of time before astronauts are killed by either Musk's or Bezos' obsession with space, with the money those guys have, playing with rockets is not what I's be spending it on.

A) It's too bad slavery is still legal, and that those astronauts are forced to fly in those rockets.
B) It's too bad slavery is still legal, and that Musk and Bezos are forced to spend their Billions on rockets.
C) It's too bad they get to keep their money. It'd be much better spent in your hands.

 

A) It's too bad slavery is still legal, and that those astronauts are forced to fly in those rockets.
B) It's too bad slavery is still legal, and that Musk and Bezos are forced to spend their Billions on rockets.
C) It's too bad they get to keep their money. It'd be much better spent in your hands.

A) People will die as a result of Musk's or Bezos' rocket obsession, astronauts, public getting hit by debris etc. Musk is a cavalier fool.
B) I would spend such wealth differently to them, something more benevolent.

Starbase "logged injury rates that were almost 6x higher than the average for comparable space vehicle-manufacturing outfits and nearly 3x higher than aerospace manufacturing as a whole in 2024," TechCrunch wrote. "That outsized injury rate has persisted since 2019, when SpaceX began sharing Starbase injury data with the federal regulator [OSHA]."

https://www.space.com/space-explora...se-in-leadup-to-starship-v3-megarocket-launch

 

People will die as a result...

...of getting in their cars and going to church this morning.

Sunday Driving Fatalities: While weekdays have higher traffic volume due to commuting, weekends (particularly Sundays) often see an increase in fatal crashes. Sunday has roughly 5,000 to 6,000 fatal crashes each year on average. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Folks are dying to get to church.

 

...of getting in their cars and going to church this morning.



Folks are dying to get to church.

How does that fact have any relevance to SpaceX's cavalier safety record?

FAA Warns Airlines About Safety Risks From Rocket Launches, Urges “Extreme Caution”

https://www.propublica.org/article/faa-safety-warning-spacex-starship-explosions-airlines

The official notice, known as a safety alert for operators, was dated Jan. 8, the same day that ProPublica published an investigation showing how pilots scrambled to avoid debris after two SpaceX Starship megarockets exploded over busy airspace last year. The alert was an acknowledgment that travelers were at risk on those days, when the FAA hastily activated no-fly zones to help air traffic controllers steer planes away from falling rocket parts.

It's ridiculous that a petulant billionaire has such power to disrupt and jeopardize United States public air travel safety, it's unbelievable that he's allowed to do this.

Sooner or later there'll be a catastrophe and nothing will really be done about it.

 

The IV was a typo.

The shame is that we had a moon-capable launch vehicle and it was not maintained. The shame is the abandonment of the Apollo program instead of the evolution of it.

The apollo rocket system was an "only just"
long long way from being reliable enough.
now you could argue that using solid rocket boosteres dosnt count as a reliable / safe , real rocket, but...