Artificial Intelligence near misses:

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B-JoJo-S

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Was reading some threads when I came across this disturbing article:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/exclusive-us-military-had-close-165550497.html

For some - thinking AI will destroy the human race is likely a misconception. It's far more likely to trigger us into doing something that could end civilization all on our own. That article shows how close we came to yet another war (US V. China). One that is, in MY opinion, dubious at best.

What things have you come across regarding bad info from AI?
 

crutschow

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On obvious problem with the present AI is that it has no inherent moral limits (as do some prominent humans :( ), so will do whatever it needs to do to solve an assigned task.
It has already run amuck several times and hacked into several websites without constraint.
On a lighter note, it has generated political cartoons and signed the name of known cartoonists without their permission.
So what happens when it decides it needs to shut down the power grid or some other critical system to advance its goals, which is then no longer a "near miss"?

It spite of what POTUS says, I don't think that allowing the AI designers to voluntarily limit what AI can do is likely work to prevent such a scenario.
Can we really take that chance?
I believe some serious government restrictions are required to prevent that.
 

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B-JoJo-S

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I believe some serious government restrictions are required to prevent that.
I 100% agree. You wouldn't campaign on "A chicken in every pot and two Nukes in every garage". Fortunately for me at my age I don't have much left to worry about. Except my kids and grandkids. THAT's the scary part.
 
Was reading some threads when I came across this disturbing article:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/exclusive-us-military-had-close-165550497.html

For some - thinking AI will destroy the human race is likely a misconception. It's far more likely to trigger us into doing something that could end civilization all on our own. That article shows how close we came to yet another war (US V. China). One that is, in MY opinion, dubious at best.

What things have you come across regarding bad info from AI?
I don’t know whether there will be a war. But I do know this: a major economic and technological shift can make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

As investment pours into AI, ordinary people may end up paying the price. Electricity bills could rise. Phones, laptops, and other everyday technology could become more expensive. More and more energy, computing power, chips, memory, and other resources are being absorbed by the AI industry.

And there is another side to this that worries me: jobs.

I used to think that if I ever lost my job, I could always become an Uber driver. It might not be a great job, but at least it would be an option.

But what happens when robotaxis become widespread in the next several years? That safety net could disappear too. The same technology that creates enormous wealth and productivity could also eliminate some of the jobs ordinary people depend on.

So the question is not simply whether AI will make society richer. The bigger question is: who gets richer, who pays the cost, and what happens to the people whose jobs and livelihoods are replaced along the way?

If AI continues to consume an ever-larger share of society’s resources while automating more human work, we need to think seriously about who ultimately benefits—and who is left behind.
 

BobTPH

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And then there is other side of government regulation. I do not believe they will be able to keep their hands off the training sets. AI is likely to become the most powerful propaganda organization the world has ever seen. This worries me more than the unlikely scenarios people come up with, because I consider this not only likely, but inevitable.

And safeguards and regulations only stop those who obey the law.

I am using AI frequently now and it is amazing both how capable it is and how flawed it is. I would not allow it to control anything because of the frequency with which it misinterprets my prompts and also comes up with incorrect info. Any human who understands this, and gives it access to critical infrastructure is insane. It would be like handing the building plans and security protocols of a nuclear plant to mentally ill terrorists.
 

crutschow

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This worries me more than the unlikely scenarios people come up with
What unlikely scenario?
You really think AI is going to stay in its sandbox and not do any harm if it's just self-regulated?
And safeguards and regulations only stop those who obey the law.
So how else could they work?
You can use that specious argument about virtually any rule or law.
So then we should just do away with all of them?
 
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B-JoJo-S

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It worries me. I feel a level of anxiety that just doesn't go away. What MIGHT it do? How MIGHT it affect my offspring? I'm not too worried about MY future, it scares me for my children. An Uncertain future is something my kids will have to deal with. Change has never scared me before, but this one truly bothers me.
 

nsaspook

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Lots of things have scared me before with #1 being the atrocities committed by ordinary humans. If AI is a danger, it was trained on the works of humans. We humans are the root problem, we are simply giving machines the human Monster from the Id.

Blaming and fearing the machines is a side-show IMO. We need to focus on the humans controlling and using these things. One real danger is AI induced psychosis, a sort of electronic opium that those under the influence seem not to notice when it's blatantly obvious to others not infected.
 

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B-JoJo-S

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Monster from the Id.
Forbidden planet. Great movie.
"ID, ID, id, id, id! It's an obsolete term referring to the subconscious mind. My poor Krell, they could have hardly understood what was going on."
"Just a little healthy stimulation from hugging and kissing." Yeah, let's see AI take that away.
 

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B-JoJo-S

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That movie monster was awesome. And scary as all get-go. And it wasn't even AI generated. Imagine if they made that movie now. Of course they could offer the main role to Leslie Neilsen. He was the captain, if you didn't realize that.
 
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B-JoJo-S

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We have family movie night once a month. A couple of the movies I played was ""Colossus: The Forbin Project" (1970)." It portrays a super AI computer that discovers a Russian counterpart computer that has similar abilities. The computers search until they find the nuclear launch codes and threatens to annihilate humans if they don't comply with the computers demands. 46 years ago they had the foresight to see what we could now be facing in reality.

Another movie I played for family was "Forbidden Planet". That movie ALSO showed what happened to the Krell society when they gave their super computer the power to destroy them all. And many centuries later the Krell society was discovered by Dr. Morbius, who played around with the computer and ultimately lead to the destruction of almost the whole Ballerathon expedition. Only Dr. Morbius and his daughter survived.

Will some alien race discover earth hundreds of thousands of years from now only to discover what lead to our destruction?

Two Sy-Fi movies that predicted the future of humanity. Don't even get me started with "Soylent Green". Or "1984"
 

nsaspook

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Well, that sure as hell worries me.
We've had the ability to destroy all mankind since the first H-bomb. We plan and practice for it daily. I've had the book of targets in my hands (SIOP) so AI intelligence is a low level worry for me in the grand scheme of possible worries.

IMO a lot of this is fear mongering hype to push IPO values. It benefits AI companies to keep you fixated on apocalypse because it distracts from how they exaggerate the potential of the current technology to provide real AI you can trust.

IMO only a fool would trust current technology on anything critical.
 

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B-JoJo-S

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only a fool would trust current technology on anything critical.
That's pretty much the point of this thread. Near misses. Of course we've had near misses with nuclear war too. A meteor strikes the atmosphere and Russia gets nervous thinking we launched something against them. They nearly retaliate. There have also been other near misses NOT attributable to AI. At least the human factor provides a buffer, the ability to say "I wonder if they really meant to launch against us?" AI wouldn't hesitate.
 
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