220 vs 220 ????

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alexla

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dendad

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60 Hz (60 cycles per second) transformers and motors may not work on 50Hz as the inductance may not be quite enough to prevent saturation of the core material at the lower frequency. You need to check the data on the devices to see if they are usable on both frequencies.
The cores for 50Hz are a little bigger than for 60Hz as the lower frequency is a little less efficent.
 

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alexla

Joined Oct 31, 2017
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60 Hz (60 cycles per second) transformers and motors may not work on 50Hz as the inductance may not be quite enough to prevent saturation of the core material at the lower frequency. You need to check the data on the devices to see if they are usable on both frequencies.
The cores for 50Hz are a little bigger than for 60Hz as the lower frequency is a little less efficent.
on other forum we say that we can use a 50hz on 60hz (it will turn faster). my question is more about the difference of the voltage on the 2 phase 120 phase shifted vs 220 european
 

dendad

Joined Feb 20, 2016
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on other forum we say that we can use a 50hz on 60hz (it will turn faster). my question is more about the difference of the voltage on the 2 phase 120 phase shifted vs 220 european
You probably can, but need to check the specs. If the 60Hz device is made for both it will be ok, but I have had one transformer that was just made for 60Hz and on 50Hz it drew too much current and overheated as the core was saturating. The current in inductive devices on AC is not limited by the DC resistance alone but also by the inductive reactance. When saturated, this falls to zero and then just the resistance limits the current so smoke often results.
 

MaxHeadRoom

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my question is more about the difference of the voltage on the 2 phase 120 phase shifted vs 220 european
If referring to N.A. 120, it is single phase, not 2 phase, derived from a 240v centre tapped transformer, in Other parts of the world where 230 is derived from one phase and the star neutral of a 3ph transformer, there is no detectable difference apart from the voltage and frequency of supply.
Max.
 
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