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Hi Everyone,
I am a student of State Univercity of Moscow. I am writing Diploma work . I find these forum of Cadence company while searching the name of my Diploma in Google. I am not a member of Cadence Company . I have to create Converter , which will convert ONLY digital standard cells' netlist view into schematic file. The input file is schematic netlist --- > for example some netlist of NAND schema,with 3 inputs: I II III IV V mp1 sp1 A1 VDD VDD mp2 sp1 A2 VDD VDD mp3 Z sp1 VDD VDD mn2 sn2 A2 VSS VSS mn1 sp1 A1 sn2 VSS mn3 Z sp1 VSS VSS I : the names of NMOS and PMOS transistors, II: Drain connection , III: Gate connection, IV:Source , V: Bulk From such discription of schematic the program which I am going to create will generate transistor level schematic view (hierarchic or flat (my choose)).As the work will be done only for standard digital circuits , I think the view will be flat, as there is no hierarchi for example in drawing Multiplexer. I consider , the Cadence Tools are not open source , so I won't be able to get access to them . I also try to get access to Spice Vision Pro program, it seems it does such converting. Could you help , give any advise , how to start work of writing such program! Thanks in advance, Ani |
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No need to double post, maybe 'bump' the original thread.
I think that you may have better luck with a forum that specializes in the particular language you wish to use to make your program. I say this because your specific task does not require much electrical knowledge, it involves high level programming. I cannot imagine an automated way of laying down the devices and having them connect intelligently. Best of luck!, Steve |
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A netlist contains only connection data. A schematic contains data for symbols,
symbol placement and connection. It could be difficult to get a human readable schematic from just the connection data. You may be able to generate a schematic that you could manual correct. Check out the gEDA project for open source schematic software. I have created a variety of scripts that automate EDA tasks. Checkout http://www.luciani.org/geda/geda-index.html (* jcl *)
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Cadsoft's Eagle Layout Editor v4.16 has a ULP (User Language Program) provision for making all of the connections in a Netlist, but it requires that you first place the library components into the schematic capture program from a Parts List with reference designators matching those in the Netlist.
Sample Part list from Cadsoft Eagle: Code:
Exported from TripleFlashLEDBeaconV3.sch at 2/14/2008 10:24:49a EAGLE Version 4.16r2 Copyright (c) 1988-2006 CadSoft Part Value Device Package Library Sheet C1 2.2uF CPOL-USE15-5AXIAL E15-5 rcl 1 IC1 4017N 4017N DIL16 40xx 1 IC2 4075N 4075N DIL14 40xx 1 IC3 4093N 4093N DIL14 40xx 1 J1 MTA06-100 10X06MTA con-amp 1 Q1 IRF510 IRF510 TO220 transistor-fet 1 Q2 IRF510 IRF510 TO220 transistor-fet 1 R1 10K R-US_0207/10 0207/10 rcl 1 R2 100K PC16S PC16S piher 1 R3 10K R-US_0207/10 0207/10 rcl 1 R4 10K R-US_0207/10 0207/10 rcl 1 Code:
Netlist
Exported from TripleFlashLEDBeaconV3.sch at 2/14/2008 10:24:26a
EAGLE Version 4.16r2 Copyright (c) 1988-2006 CadSoft
Net Part Pad Pin Sheet
N$1 C1 + + 1
IC3 1 I0 1
IC3 2 I1 1
R2 1A 1A 1
N$3 R1 1 1 1
R2 1S 1S 1
N$4 IC1 14 CLK 1
IC3 3 O 1
R1 2 2 1
N$5 IC1 3 Q0 1
IC2 1 I0 1
N$6 IC1 4 Q2 1
IC2 2 I1 1
N$7 IC1 10 Q4 1
IC2 8 I2 1
N$8 IC1 11 Q9 1
IC2 5 I2 1
N$9 IC1 6 Q7 1
IC2 4 I1 1
N$10 IC1 1 Q5 1
IC2 3 I0 1
N$11 IC2 9 O 1
R3 1 1 1
N$12 IC2 6 O 1
R4 1 1 1
N$13 Q1 1 G 1
R3 2 2 1
N$14 Q2 1 G 1
R4 2 2 1
N$15 J1 6 6 1
Q2 2 D 1
N$16 J1 5 5 1
Q1 2 D 1
VDD IC1 16 VDD * none *
IC2 14 VDD * none *
IC3 14 VDD * none *
J1 1 1 1
VSS C1 - - 1
IC1 13 ENA 1
IC1 15 RES 1
IC1 8 VSS * none *
IC2 11 I0 1
IC2 12 I1 1
IC2 13 I2 1
IC2 7 VSS * none *
IC3 12 I0 1
IC3 13 I1 1
IC3 5 I0 1
IC3 6 I1 1
IC3 7 VSS * none *
IC3 8 I0 1
IC3 9 I1 1
J1 3 3 1
Q1 3 S 1
Q2 3 S 1
You must have a way of associating your reference designators with components in your libraries. The usual way to do this would be using a parts list, or Bill of Materials List. Cadsoft's website: http://www.cadsoft.de/ You can download a demonstration version that is functional, but limited to 2 layers, 1 schematic sheet, and small board size. The ULP for converting a netlist to a schematic is: cmd-net-list2sch.ulp
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Annette,
there is a tool called spicevision from www.concept.de that can create schematics from spice netlists. They also have a verilog based netlist reader. I am evaluating their SGVisionPro at work. The tool can read spice and verilog at the same time and creates a really great hierarchical schematic that is easy to navigate. Have a look. It might do what you need. It's a commercial tool, but at least it lets you know that what you want is possible. Nicky |
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