Why humans learn faster than AI—for now

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nsaspook

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Then I decided to ask ChatGPT about something that I knew didn’t exist: a cycloidal inverted electromagnon. I wrote my thesis about electromagnons, but to be double sure, I checked there was no such thing (it's been ca. 7 years since my defense). ChatGPT thought differently:
I left the conversation with the intense feeling of uncanniness: I just experienced a parallel universe of plausibly sounding, non-existing phenomena, confidently supported by citations to non-existing research. Last time I felt this way when I attended a creationist lecture.

We will be fed with hallucinations indistinguishable from the truth, written without grammar mistakes, supported by hallucinated evidence, passing all first critical checks. With similar models available, how will we be able to distinguish a real pop-sci article from a fake one?
 

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nsaspook

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https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...t-darpa-robot-by-hiding-under-a-cardboard-box

DARPA was quickly humbled. Scharre writes that all eight Marines were able to defeat the robot using techniques that could have come straight out of a Looney Tunes episode. Two of the Marines somersaulted toward the center of the traffic circle, thus using a form of movement the robot hadn’t been trained to identify. Another pair shuffled toward the robot under a cardboard box. One Marine even stripped a nearby fir tree and was able to reach the robot by walking “like a fir tree” (the meaning of which Twitter users are still working to figure out).
 

MrSalts

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https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...t-darpa-robot-by-hiding-under-a-cardboard-box

DARPA was quickly humbled. Scharre writes that all eight Marines were able to defeat the robot using techniques that could have come straight out of a Looney Tunes episode. Two of the Marines somersaulted toward the center of the traffic circle, thus using a form of movement the robot hadn’t been trained to identify. Another pair shuffled toward the robot under a cardboard box. One Marine even stripped a nearby fir tree and was able to reach the robot by walking “like a fir tree” (the meaning of which Twitter users are still working to figure out).
So, what are the next 8 marines going to do to fool it?
 

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nsaspook

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So, what are the next 8 marines going to do to fool it?
Make friends with it before it tells the others.

https://www.economist.com/technolog...ion-and-destruction-can-still-blind-the-enemy
Deception and destruction can still blind the enemy
http://let.iiec.unam.mx/node/4100

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1610.08401.pdf
Can we find a single small image perturbation that fools
a state-of-the-art deep neural network classifier on all natural images? We show in this paper the existence of such
quasi-imperceptible universal perturbation vectors that lead
to misclassify natural images with high probability. Specifically, by adding such a quasi-imperceptible perturbation
to natural images, the label estimated by the deep neural network is changed with high probability (see Fig. 1).
Such perturbations are dubbed universal, as they are image agnostic. The existence of these perturbations is problematic when the classifier is deployed in real-world (and possibly hostile) environments,
 
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MrAl

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After looking at the Ai images in this thread again i remembered i worked with a simpler Ai program and also and Ai calculator, and one i designed myself that creates human words.
The Ai calculator was probably the most interesting because it could come up with formulas like the formula for the circumference of a circle given the diameter. Sometimes it took longer than other times to get a good formula for different things.
The human words program wasnt too difficult because it only has to deal with the alphabet, not complete 2d images.
The simpler Ai program was interesting but it takes a lot a lot a lot of teaching to get it to do anything even close to useful.
 
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