# Votage Gain

Discussion in 'Homework Help' started by mo2015mo, Mar 10, 2014.

1. ### mo2015mo Thread Starter Member

May 9, 2013
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Hi my friends,,

my question written in attached photo ,, Is this conclude right??

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2. ### shteii01 AAC Fanatic!

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The top circuit is: Vout=-200*Vin

Your interpretation is that Gain is reduced. My interpretation is that Gain is the same, Vin is reduced.

The reason for my interpretation is that you did not change the circuit that provides the gain, so there is no reason for Gain to change. Your top circuit has amplifier sub circuit that provides Gain of -200. Your bottom circuit has the same amplifier sub circuit, so the Gain remains -200.

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3. ### mo2015mo Thread Starter Member

May 9, 2013
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Okay...new info. thanks for your interpretation shteii01,,,

4. ### BytetoEat New Member

Mar 5, 2014
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Hmm I disagree with shteii,

The gain is reduced because we are talking in terms of Vin and Vout. Everything inbetween is the amplifier, which in the second circuit is 1/3rd of the first. Vin is 3mV in both cases, its not reduced..

5. ### WBahn Moderator

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You have either modified the original amplifier circuit and reduced its gain by a factor of three, or you have inserted a gain stage that has a gain of 1/3. In either case, you total system gain has been reduced by a factor of three.

6. ### shteii01 AAC Fanatic!

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I think I see your point. If we treat the voltage source as Vin, then from my own equation:
Vout=-200(Vin/3)
we get
Vout=(-200/3)Vin
so Gain is indeed -200/3.

So basically we have attenuator in series with amplifier, and the effect is product of both applied to the input.

Ok. I apologize for being a little dense about it. I guess I was so focused on the trees that I did not see the forest.

7. ### BytetoEat New Member

Mar 5, 2014
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Well it's not that you're wrong in any way.. because it's just the perspective you look at it like WBahn is saying.. I only said that cause usually we think of the overall circuit but you can also look at it like two amplifiers etc etc..