Variable Transformer Question

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BassNGuns

Joined Dec 9, 2013
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Hi,
I would like to use a 3 amp variable transformer to bring up the power slowly after I repair audio amplifiers.
I don't plan on having the volume up while I'm bringing up the voltage.
Would a variable transformer rated at 3 amps be enough?
Thanks in advance. :)
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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I don't think that is a viable solution. Audio amplifiers do not necessarily function linearly with supply voltage. You may need a minimum supply voltage to get the bias conditions right.
 

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BassNGuns

Joined Dec 9, 2013
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I don't think that is a viable solution. Audio amplifiers do not necessarily function linearly with supply voltage. You may need a minimum supply voltage to get the bias conditions right.
Right, but this would be an AC transformer that I would be using to bring up the unit making sure that there are no shorts present.
I would also have a 100w light bulb sitting across an empty fuse terminal.
After the coast is clear I would hook it up to a regular ac line.
 

inwo

Joined Nov 7, 2013
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That's a great idea.

I don't plug in any unknown without a variac using V and A meters.

As long as you're doing it. Put it in a box with the meters.

For the ultimate use an isolation transformer also.
 

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BassNGuns

Joined Dec 9, 2013
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That's a great idea.

I don't plug in any unknown without a variac using V and A meters.

As long as you're doing it. Put it in a box with the meters.

For the ultimate use an isolation transformer also.
How many amps is your variac? Just curious.
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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Repairmen have been doing this for decades because the goal is not about getting bias conditions correct. It's about seeing if the filter caps are going to explode gently or violently, or trying to find a sound or a smell or a curl of smoke instead or repeatedly plugging in the machine, unplugging it, replacing the fuse, and plugging it back in. It's a diagnostic procedure, not a THD test.
 

MrChips

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For that, I built an electronic fuse. It has a meter that can show the peak current draw. I can also set a max threshold current that breaks the AC supply once the max current limit is exceeded. Saves having to replace fuses.
 

inwo

Joined Nov 7, 2013
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How many amps is your variac? Just curious.
From the fusing I believe it's 15 amps. However my isolation transformer is only 3 amps.

I have a switch when I need more power to bypass the isolation.

There are appropriate CTs on the amp meter for 0-3 or 0-30 scale.

I just put some of my CTs and meters on Ebay that I had left over from when I was building this sort of equipment.
 

inwo

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For that, I built an electronic fuse. It has a meter that can show the peak current draw. I can also set a max threshold current that breaks the AC supply once the max current limit is exceeded. Saves having to replace fuses.

Good idea.
Can't tell you how many time I go to bsmt resetting the 20 amp breaker.:D
 

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BassNGuns

Joined Dec 9, 2013
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From the fusing I believe it's 15 amps. However my isolation transformer is only 3 amps.

I have a switch when I need more power to bypass the isolation.

There are appropriate CTs on the amp meter for 0-3 or 0-30 scale.

I just put some of my CTs and meters on Ebay that I had left over from when I was building this sort of equipment.
Do you think with what I'm doing that 3 amps should be enough?
 

JohnInTX

Joined Jun 26, 2012
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That's a great idea.

I don't plug in any unknown without a variac using V and A meters.

As long as you're doing it. Put it in a box with the meters.

For the ultimate use an isolation transformer also.
Agree! A partner and I used to manufacture these in various ratings in the '70s. I still use my 2A model daily for the reasons you've noted. Its saved my bacon countless times. I also use isolation transformers as req'd.

Its also most useful for low / high line voltage tests (mine is overwound and goes to 140V).
 

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alfacliff

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the variac is an old Ham trick, it helps reform electrolytics, and prevent burnt power transformers if the caps are bad. mostly used to bring back old tube type equipment safely.
cliff
 

GetDeviceInfo

Joined Jun 7, 2009
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Hi,
I would like to use a 3 amp variable transformer to bring up the power slowly after I repair audio amplifiers.
I don't plan on having the volume up while I'm bringing up the voltage.
Would a variable transformer rated at 3 amps be enough?
Thanks in advance. :)
I like to separate the power supply, and inject a limited DC supply from one of my supplies. Good time to also test your circuits power supply while they are separated and can run into a dummy load.
 
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